bobouz
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I’ve had both a Dove & Heritage Custom from the early ‘70s that utilized the same bridge (but not the same inlay).
Personally, I think that guitar is a beauty. I would not shy away from giving it a test run & serious consideration. Most of the negatives from that era revolve around instruments being overbuilt in order to enhance durability.
It’s not as if the workers in Kalamazoo totally forgot how to build a good guitar!
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Ah, so yours has 17 frets clear of the body. I did own the Korean Peerless Casino - but sold it after purchasing an Elitist, so can’t help with dimensions.
Best of luck in sorting this out.
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Lorda mercy. Facts are facts folks. This virus is spreading like wildfire & it happens to be particularly hard on older individuals. Panicked over-reaction is one thing, but if someone chooses to be a poorly informed dolt & bury their head in the sand, it’s like my wife always says: Natural Selection.
Regardless, there is a silver lining: Being at home more means more time to sit & relax with the instruments.
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There’s someone on Reverb who has some NOS pickguards from the Terada-body built ‘65 Lennon Casino. Specs are shown in photos. If this one could possibly work for you, the price is very reasonable. Look up Epiphone Elitist on Reverb & it’ll pop up.
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5 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said:
Here is the 225 I owned just to post some guitar porn.
Lovely! I almost bought one of the single pickup models, but passed due to the center positioning of the P90.
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Another derail - There was also a version with mini-humbuckers!
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1 hour ago, Larsongs said:
I'm not familiar with a hollow body, P90, USA Gibson Guitar the same size as the Asian Epi Casino Coupe with P90's? Did or does such a Guitar exist?
Yes, there was one. It was the ES-390: fully hollow, P90s, trapeze tailpiece, and small 339 body size. I believe it was produced from 2014 to 2016.
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54 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said:
Hasn't Gibson made an ES-3?? with P-90's. So what is all the fuss about. Plus they are gonna be made in Nashville, by the same guys who make 335's. Isn't it really now just gonna be a Gibson with Epi on the headstock? I think the only thing I can remember that is that is so different on Casino's is the neck is down a bit more so you loose some upper fret access. That's a plus. Not sure if Casino's are full hollows or not?
The ES-330 & Casino are essentially the same fully-hollow beast, and likewise the J-45 & Texan are kissin’ cousins (with the longer scale of the Texan being a noteable difference).
The key factor in all of this is the Beatles connection. It’s the primary reason Gibson believes it can successfully market either one of these Epi models in a top-tier USA-made version. And they should have a good feel for all of this. After all, they’ve been experimenting with assorted versions of these two models for decades.
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12 hours ago, Larsongs said:
Originally, The Epiphone Co.'s. Guitars weren't lesser quality, cheaper Offshore built versions compared to Gibsons or whoever... That was a relatively recent change, I believe, after Henry took over...
Actually, the switch to outsourcing Epiphone production to pacific rim countries took place in 1970, at the front end of Norlin’s ownership.
The original Epiphone Company was historically a direct competitor to Gibson. After Gibson’s purchase of Epiphone in 1957, Kalamazoo/Gibson-made Epis were constructed with the exact same level of quality as their Gibson counterparts from 1958 to 1969. Then came the overseas Epi era & “entry level” moniker.
In the ‘90s, there were a few short runs of commemorative USA-made Epis. In 2000 we saw the release of the John Lee Hooker ‘64 Sheraton & the John Lennon ‘65 Casino, comprising what was called the USA Series - but in actuality, the bodies were made by Terada-Japan (w/nitro finish) & shipped to Nashville for installation of Gibson pickups & hardware. The Terada-made Elite/Elitist line then came along in 2002, so more & more top quality Epis were once again reaching player’s hands.
Now it seems like we’ve come somewhat full circle, with a few USA-made Epiphones being built as part of regular production.
Very cool, imho.
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The price is essentially the same as that of a standard J-45.
So I guess the question becomes, do you want your roundshoulder in a long or short scale?
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I had a mild interest in them when they were in production, but found ES double-cuts to be a better fit overall. That said, 137s do have the potential to be quite nice.
Lots of variation in Memphis production from piece to piece, so having a good return policy would be a must.
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Again, a stock 2001 J-45 would have come equipped with a Fishman UST.
It’s possible that yours could have been ordered without one, but the highest probability is that it was there & has been removed.
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1 hour ago, vw1300 said:
My 2001 J-50 had a UST pickup which appeared to be factory but I can't prove it.
Your 2001 J-50 came with the same Fishman UST as I noted above for the J-45. Again, during this particular period, many Gibson models came stock with the exact same UST, including an ‘00 J-100, ‘01 J-150, ‘01 J-50, and ‘02 J-45R that I bought new at the time. I also have catalogs from this era that list which models came stock with a UST. Personally, I’ve always thought it was a pretty good pickup!
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Yes, the 2001 J-45 came stock with the standard Fishman UST that was used on many models during the early 2000s. There was a metal two-pronged battery clip on the neckblock & no control wheels.
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Looks & sounds really nice.
Have fun!
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6 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said:
I find it hard to believe a neck just twists sitting at a store even though it hasn't been used and it more than likely left the Gibson factory that way.
My response in the post directly above is in reply to this statement. For some reason, I couldn’t go back in & do a corrective edit.
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5 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said:I find it hard to believe a neck just twists sitting at a store even though it hasn't been used and it more than likely left the Gibson factory that way.
Perhaps not. Recall that the OP was happy with the playability of his original guitar for approximately six months - Then problems developed. Environmental changes can certainly impact a product made from wood, and/or weakness in a particular piece can develop over time. The OP’s second NOS guitar may have utilized wood from the same batch & suffered a similar fate after production.
In 2001, I bought a new Montana J-150, a wonderful acoustic jumbo that l played for well over a year before it suddenly seemed like I couldn’t quite dial in the action to my satisfaction. My head-scratching analysis revealed a slight twist in the neck that made the treble side of the fingerboard dip down slightly by the time it reached the nut. This played havoc with my low-action light-touch fingerpicking style.
The LP double-cut I mentioned earlier in this thread went five years before one day I opened the case, and the two-piece body was splitting from the bottom up.
I’ve owned a bunch of Kalamazoo, Montana, Memphis, & Nashville Gibson’s, and never experienced similar problems. Sometimes, things just unexpectedly happen.
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Well, if it were me, I’d do the refund in a heartbeat. Why keep yourself locked into a scenario with limited options?
With a refund, your choice of an instrument now expands to everything & anything currently out there for sale.
You might want to consider used ES models. For me, the Memphis sweet spot was 2009 to 2012. I have four ES models, one from each of those years, and they are all stellar (ES-339, ES-330L, ES-335wP90s, ES-330vos).
Prior to ‘09, I was not impressed with Memphis production. After 2012, I have no frame of reference, as my search (on the electric side) was essentially over.
Hope it all works out for you!
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Go for the refund - Immediately !!!
You need to get out from under this dealer & the trap you’re currently looped into. Start your search fresh, with whatever appeals to you.
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Aside from what’s already been mentioned, the number & letter fonts on the back of the headstock are wrong, and the serial number has an extra digit compared to a true 2006 ES serial number.
Big time FAKE !!!
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13 hours ago, WeirdEpiphone said:
Anyone have any ideas on who or how to verify for sure that this could have made it out of a Korean factory with so many differences?
The only way to confirm a Korean origin would be with a serial number. Codes for the multiple Korean factories used by Gibson are well known.
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Your guitar also has more fretboard inlays than a Sheraton normally would have.
An odd duck, to be sure - and again, why bother to fake an Asian Epiphone?
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Gibson-Europe is a different beast when it comes to warranty issues. Hard to know how much of this is your dealer’s fault, or the European distributor who handles warranty claims. At this point, I’d recommend you contact a customer-service rep in Nashville. Ask for them to intervene & assist in brokering a reasonable resolution.
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3 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said:
Comparable to when you bought it or current day price of that model?
That’s a good question! The price I had paid for the LP, or it’s original selling price, was never discussed. It was strictly a matter of equivalently featured instruments available in the current catalog. I think we discussed three instruments that were in production. They simply had to be in the same ballpark, which imho was more than fair.
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Larson - As far as your 2000 Les Paul Standard Plus goes, it almost certainly would have come with 490R/498T alnico humbuckers.
I happen to have the 2001 catalog, and every LP Standard model came with the same 490/498 combo (that includes the Std, Std Plus, Std Smartwood, Std Raw Power, & Std Double Cutaway). Gibson did not make many changes from year to year back then, so there's a very high probability that all LP Standards came with the same pickups in 2000.
Without taking your guitars apart, catalogs or online data would be the best way to get specific details on pickups.
Edit: The model number, as opposed to the serial number, may also provide some clues. The model number might appear on your sales receipt if you were the original purchaser, or possibly on a COA if the guitar came with one. Given the model number (usually a combination of letters & numbers), Customer Service in Nashville might be able to decode it for you.