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  1. My mistake. I know someone on the SW list bought the other S&D GLB when it appeared. After we bought them, they dumped a bunch of non-S&D product on the site for the same S&D price. The corrected that mistake, but not before about a dozen went out the door. I was pretty upset that my S&D cost the same as a new item. I talked to them the same day and they told me it was a price mistake. They did, however, give me a rebate so the GLB ended up costing me about 900 bucks. I wasn't complaining. :) I really liked the customer experience at MY. They are a good bunch of guys and it's sad that they won't carry anymore Steinberger product.
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    Synapse +

    EVH and Vito Bratta. That's why I have a huge collection of Steinbergers. I don't know what it would take to reproduce that these days, but they don't seem to be trying very hard to do it.
  3. Kinda sad, isn't it. I know we have new models with a new TT design. That's cool and everything, but I hate seeing the USA line get mothballed. I hope they come back at some point. Congrats on your purchase. If I had the need, I would've tried snapping up one or two of them myself.
  4. You and I both got on that deal JT. Yours was scratch & dent as well, right? I remember right after that, they had non-S&D GLB2Ts for sale at the same price accidentally. I think about a dozen people got lucky with that deal.
  5. Quit showing off Brent. :) Besides, you are depressing me by bringing those days up. I have 3 GM4Ts, 4 GM7TAs, and 1 GLB2T from those sales and I'd still buy more if they came up again. I only paid 900 bucks for that GLB2T. How could anyone pass that up?
  6. I think you said it very well. You want Steinbergers to be more available in non-American markets. I agree. I would love to see Steinberger become a world-wide success again. Welcome!
  7. That sucks. You could contact someone on the dealers page. I would suggest picking something on the west coast, like California. I hope it works out for ya.
  8. Musician's Friend: Backordered: Available 08-08-2008 American Musical Supply: Out of Stock! Available 7/9/2008 Sweetwater: We've confirmed this item will ship soon from Steinberger and should arrive in our warehouse the week of 6/29. Good question. Retailers are all over the map. No idea on the brick & mortar dealers. You might try calling one.
  9. You make it sound like people buy guitars by comparing spec sheets. If that were the case, there would be only one model of guitar made for every price point. I know Parker fans are as rabid as Steinberger fans and that (often times) the two seem at odds with eachother. I just don't see the comparison between the two guitars. You can get the same electronics that come on the Parker on many other guitars. You will not, however, find a TT3 anywhere else. I think 60% of the ZT3 price the TT3 alone. It dominates the construction costs of this guitar. (That's my guess.) As far as QC, I'm guessing they learned a lot from the Synapse ordeal and (hopefully) would not be dumb enough to repeat the same mistakes. I also have to say that the Synapse ordeal was overstated. I bought one of the first TranScales and could not be happier. I know there are many others like me. The problem is that if you have a 5-10% quality issue, those buyers are going to be MUCH more vocal than the 90% who are happy. I don't know what the actual percentage of instruments with (actual QC) issues was, but I'm guessing it was close to that range. Face it, guitars are going to get more and more expensive and other countries are going to build better and better instruments. At some point, 'made in the USA' may actually have negative connotations. I hope I don't see that day, but the point is that you cannot automatically assume that it means a 'superior' instrument. Only time and personal comparisons can make that assessment. Let's see how things go with the rollout. As for bluv's comment, I couldn't agree more. I own Steinbergers because of Eddie Van Halen and Vito Bratta. They made me want one in a bad way. When I could finally afford one, I was elated. Over time, I grew to love the instrument for it's own merits so much that I now have MANY Steinbergers. If it wasn't for the endorsements, however, I probably wouldn't have discovered the brand. Endorsements are CRITICAL to achieve high volume.
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    USA forum

    Nope. Got one on order. Someone at the SW list (check my sig) may have a GM7 for sale. A lot of product was moved out of MYs doors over the past couple of years. I personally bought about 4 GM7s, 3 GM4s, and a GLB during this phase. You could probably get a pretty decent (if not mint) guitar on the secondary market.
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    USA forum

    Btw, I should tell you that the MY GMs are not identical to the original GMs. Most notably, the original GM necks are thicker than the MY models. Many prefer the older necks. I actually prefer the newer ones, but my fondness for Ibanez guitars may have something to do with that.
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    USA forum

    I don't think you'll get an official response. The 'rolling due date' is typical MY MO (MusicYo modus operandi). They do this with every product that is not in stock and it is not in the least accurate. Some people have had some luck in the past by registering to be notified when something is in stock, but honestly, as I've stated earlier in this thread, I would not expect anything from the USA line for a long time - if ever. We've been speculating about this for a long time on the SW list and I think we all pretty much agree that the USA line is (at the very least) on hold for the new line to gain some traction. I hope I'm wrong - but there ya go. You can try EBay.
  13. Based on the lack of response, I'm guessing they are a little more cramped -- but I have no personal experience (yet). There are a couple of people on the steinbergerworld list who have held the ZT3, you might try posting there to see if they'll be a little more responsive. Check my sig.
  14. Amen, bluv. They made some inroads with the Synapse basses (which stands to reason), but the boat oar shape just doesn't attract the newer guitar players. We'll see how the ZT3 does.
  15. I agree. It's tough to sell a TT to someone who doesn't understand it or isn't already familiar with Ned's genius. The retail price of a TT2 would be (if you could buy them) around $800 - probably more. Just for the trem. It's no wonder the ZT3 is expensive. But you are right, the trick is getting the public to understand why they would want/need a TT.
  16. "Made in Korea" does not necessarily indicate a low quality build, the same way as "Made in America" does not necessarily indicate high quality. Sure, there are a lot of very cheap bottom rung factory workers in Asia, but there are also skilled laborers and engineers just like in any country, and these workers are also a lot cheaper than their counterparts in Europe or America. When the Synapse line first came out (which is also made in Korea), they had some quality issues early on, but these were corrected and I think the Synapse line is a pretty well-made line of instruments. Unfortunately, I think Korea gets a stigma attached to it about producing cheaply made items (just like Japan in the 60s & 70s), but that is increasingly no longer the case. Because of this stigma, however, some companies are understandably a little nervous about introducing high-end items with a big 'Made in Korea' sticker on them. That will change over time, but you can't fault them for not making it a selling point. As for the pricing, the street price of the ZT-3 is a couple of hundred cheaper than the street price of the GM7TA. I would say the prices are comparable. Add on to that the fact that you can no longer buy a USA line instrument, and the argument is moot. I would say we are not going to see the USA line for a long time (if ever). It's existence will be contingent upon the success/failure of the new lines and if it does reappear, it will probably be retooled somewhat (e.g., using the TT3). I would put money on the fact that Gibson will no longer sell TT2s.
  17. I have a blue TranScale. I'm not going to swap out the pickups, however, as I think they are well-matched to the piezo that is on the TS. The piezo does allow me, however, to open up and brighten up the tone, so I like it a lot.
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    USA forum

    There is no specific place for the USA line for a reason. My first reply was a joking way of saying that it is no longer a Gibson product. If you look at the specific sub-forums that were created, they are all part of the new Steinberger product push. The USA line is not a part of that push. They don't want to promote something that they don't sell. At such a time when/if the USA lines is reintroduced, I'm sure they'll make a home here. The point of the forum (I'm guessing) is to promote the new and existing product lines. The 'vintage' folder must be a catch-all for forum members to tie in the history of Steinberger with the new pushes. To build off of the strength of the past to promote the future. So, in that sense, the 'vintage' folder is the only place to talk about the USA line. Calling the USA line 'vintage' however, adds a tone of finality to the line that makes me uncomfortable. I guess we'll see.
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    Eb tuning

    I saw the video that was posted and it looked like the trem was moved to pitch and then 'jiggled' somehow into a locking position. It did look like it was 'slid' into position, as you described it. I could tell it was much different than a TT2, but I could not really get a feel for the mechanism by just watching the video. I wish I could hold one to get a better sense of the tactile feel of the trem. I have a blue one on order, so I guess I'll find out in a month or so. One more question, is it possible to replace the 'notched' part of the trem for other configurations or was this dropped in the final design? I remember reading early on that it might be possible to have pre-made arms with different locking pitches (or maybe even no notches - no locking). I'm sure this would not happen for a while if it is possible, I'm just curious if the design still allows for it. Thanks for the reply!
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    USA forum

    No. Just because something is no longer made, does not make it vintage. I would take 'vintage' to mean the original GLs, GPs and GMs made before production halted in the late 90s. Personally, I'd go further to say only pre-Gibson Steinbergers were 'vintage', but since many post-Gibson guitars were made from existing stock and that you cannot really say that quality suffered any, the line does get blurred. I would also say that an L is an L and should be considered vintage no matter when it was made since they are the holiest of the holies. I'm lucky enough to have a white Newburgh GL. There's just something cool about having something that is not only no longer made, but difficult to find a comparable product on the market. Now THAT is a vintage instrument!
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    Eb tuning

    Is there anyone monitoring this list that can explain how the Eb tuning works on the TT3? It would be hard to do on the TT2, since the notch would have to be extremely close to the center notch. I'm just curious how easy/precise it is to lock in Eb on the TT3.
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    USA forum

    Would all Steinbergers currently being manufactured and sold step forward to receive their forum. Not so fast USA line! I think it'll be a while before we see new USAs.
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