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  1. I believe they had scalloped bracing in some guitars out of the 40s and 50s, but by the 60s it was not a standard practice at Gibson.

     

    So why not just get a righty and have a skilled luthier make a lefty bridge for it? I'm guessing it would be pretty straight forward if they had the original. As long as you kept the original, don't think it would have much impact on resale if that was a concern (as long as it's with hide glue).

  2. Groova,

     

    I don't want to put you through any trouble but as you might imagine ...Being a lefty a lot of times one has to live only on the fantasy of this or that vintage model.

     

     

    Is there any chance you would be willing and able to take some pics of the inside of the top of your 63 EB ?

     

    I would love to see what is underneath the hood

     

     

    And if I may ask a second question I would be interested in you comparing the sound of the EB vs the Firebird Custom (these guitars also have a pretty stellar reputation)

     

     

    Thanks to you and to everyone else for the thoughts

     

     

    JC

     

    No problem - will do. Sorry for the late response. I've been less frequent on these forums as I would like to be :(

  3. I have an original 63 in black. For a guitar with huge pickguards (really thick too!), a pinless bridge, and a shallower body depth than traditional Gibson acoustics (including the J185) - you'd expect it to be lacking. In contrast, compared to other guitars I've owned and own (new and vintage Hummingbirds, J180s, J200, J160E, J100, Firebird acoustic, Dove), it sounds absolutely stellar.

     

    To answer a couple of your questions - internally it's an X braced pattern (nothing unique going on). Also, the main aspects about converting to lefty would be the the bracing being reversed (not sure what that does to the sound) as well as the bridge. You would have to get one made - which is not difficult for a skilled luthier.

  4. Don't know how much your friend is willing to pay, but this company in Greece (I believe) offers hand engraved pickguards based on classic models. The top three on the page are Hummingbird styles in either gold or yellow. They ain't cheap (140 euros...around 158 USD as of today...before shipping costs are added). They do ship all over the world. There is evidently no VAT on orders shipped to the USA. It seems that basic shipping is free or if you want it sent by "Courier", add 30 euros.

     

    http://www.mv-customguitars.com/product-category/pickguards/

     

    I have no affiliation or knowledge about this company so I can't comment on their reputation.

     

    Thanks for the link! I'll send it to him.

     

    I know we all have our opinions on Gibson selling stuff direct. I guess you would only really care if you were the guy in need of something :). Love my Hummingbird VOS and the pickguard is not going anywhere!

  5. I don't see why Gibson wouldn't be willing to sell them a replacement pickguard. No idea what the price would be.

     

    Have you not called or emailed Gibson yet?

     

    Yep tried them - wish it were that simple. They said they cannnot (which I expected). A couple of years ago I had an issue needing replacement part, same answer through normal customer service - I did not want an aftermarket replacement. After that, I tried through a dealer (also said the same thing) and had to name drop Jeremy (who used to help folks out on the forum). He must have pulled some strings since shortly after they took care of me.

  6. I know this has been discussed a ton, and Jeremy did a great job prior to his departure to take care of so many of us (he personally helped me out on a couple of occasions). Basically, a friend of mine has a Gibson Hummingbird from 2007 which I personally found for him second-hand as he was really digging mine :)

     

    Well, a couple of years ago the outer layer of the pickguard started peeling as well as some of the edges curling. He tried gluing it, which didn't work, so he ripped it off and tossed it (NO!!!!!). I saw his guitar recently and shook my head. He said he hates that his guitar is now a birdless hummingbird.

     

    Thought I would post here to see if anyone has a contact at Gibson to see if we can pull a few strings and help a guy out. He can of course provide the serial number, pictures of the guitar, a sad face, etc.

  7. A vintage correct Gibson Everly Brothers guitar. There are a lot of unique things to the construction that Gibson does not do today on the reissues.

     


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    • Spruce top
    • Shallow depth maple sides (not like reissue J180s and J185s) and flat back (Gibson will arch them now)
    • Mahogany Neck
    • 60s swirl tortoise pickguard - the new ones look nothing like the originals
    • Lacquer over the pickguards - in the 90s they lacquered the guitar then put the pickguards on. More recently with the BJA models they used a template to get the outline of the pickguard. In the 60s they masked the pickguard and lacquered right over it. It allows the brown/red of the tortoise pickguard to shine through.
    • Pinless Bridge with ADJ saddle (they've never reissued this in the US)
    • Nickel waffle back tuners
       

     

    Modern Improvements


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    • Pickguards that don't shrink!
    • Score the edge of the pickguard if you're going to lacquer over it.
    • Trance Audio pickup on the bridge plate as an option.

  8. Ren saw the guitar for the first time at a "Homecoming" several years ago. He was very critical of the guitar and the whole project. He had no part in the project. I won't go into detail on his criticism of the guitar as several here own it and think quite highly of the model.

     

    From interviews, it's apparent Ren at heart is a guitar builder. His goal is to make the best guitar out there according to everything he's learned over the past few decades. According to interviews, it's a big reason he and Gibson parted ways.

     

    In order to produce some guitars you have to make decisions to save cost here and there. There are many things that Ren would care about that the average consumer would not in order to keep the cost down. So take it with a grain of salt. Those buying a J-15 get it because it's functional workhorse, not because it's the cadillac of guitar.

  9. The guard on my J200 Jr doesn't feel spongy. It seems to have relatively hard surface and you can feel the relief of the design. Are all the guards flubber now or could some still be the older process.

     

    Here is a photo of the pickguard room from the time I was at the Homecoming. Is that the heat press machine in the back? She's still painting the 'guard no?

     

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    Yes - the standard line for the J200 and Hummingbird have a layer of flubber on top and the artwork printed (non-Vintage, non-"true Vintage", non-VOS). I don't really fault Gibson for the Hummingbird design because they genuinely did not have the casting when they moved shop to Bozeman until 2003ish when they found it back in Kalamazoo. The Hummingbird prior to that for 20 years had a printed design. I do have my complaints about the TV Hummingbird pickguard mainly in that it's not a tortoise design like the original.

     

    The J200 is the one that baffles me. It has always been hand painted but when they started printing them and flubber-sandwiching them when they went to the modern classic design in 2007/2008.

     

    It was a smart move by Gibson as a company but not the best for the consumer... they could now upcharge 1-2K for the same features that came standard on a guitar 10 years ago. [mad]

  10. Just rambling a bit but if you are playing plugged in I would think the build of the guitar does not really make that much difference. The sound is more a matter of the strings vibrating over a magnetic pickup than the top vibrating.

     

     

    Yeah and don't forget. Traditional bronze wrapped acoustic strings won't produce as loud a tone plugged in compared to the B and E strings. The was originally intended as a hybrid electric/acoustic with nickel strings to be plugged into a guitar amp. The top was laminate just like arch-top guitars to protect against feedback. They did not want the top to resonate into an endless feedback loop every a note would ring out.

  11. Gibson makes 2 models:

     

    1. For more of the acoustic player. It's got a solid top and sounds similar to a say a J45.

    2. The ladder braced 60s reissue which is more meant to be a replica of the beatles guitar. Some have the adjustable bridge and others don't.

     

    That said, the guitar there is clearly #2. I used to own one myself a little over 10 years ago. It was lam/ladder braced, adj bridge, and was meant to be played with nickel string into an amp.

  12. Guitar came in today - wow was that fast! The guitar came in 3 days from Japan (Ishibashi Music).

     

    First, the mystery items - it was built in 2009 based on the serial, label just says "J-180", standard black/blue interior case, all original paperwork intact. The bridge is factory original (had to check the bridge plate for holes to see if someone maybe stuck a NOS bridge on).

     

    The sound - this was a big surprise. I thought it would sound like the Gibson J180 Billie Joe (which I owned right before this one) but less in all categories due to the pinless bridge with adj saddle. But this guitar is just as loud as my Hummingbird LTD VOS (definitely more volume than the BJA J180 I had). It's a canon with a lot of low end. If I close my eyes and play - I immediately think J200. That was not my observation of the BJA J180 - which had a softer attack and sweeter low end.

     

    Well, go figure. I did buy it more for sentimental reasons over thinking it would give the 'Bird a run for its money. I guess you just never know!

  13. Sorry if I've misunderstood, are you saying you've paid 10K for a 93 reissue?

     

    No, not even close... a fifth of that! The guitar the guy was selling was a reissue that was custom built (back in the mid 2000s when Gibson took custom orders). I was going to offer him what he paid for it - which I knew since the store he bought it from still had the listing.

     

    It is also not the 93 limited edition. That one did not have an adjustable bridge and had a gold plate on the back of the headstock. This was made recently - it has an orange label and a custom shop logo on the back of the headstock. Musicians friend/Music123 had a link a few years ago for a 60s Icon J180 reissue. It doesn't look like it ever hit stock inventory (much like the Dove of Peace - if any of you remember that). I'm thinking this is that guitar.

     

    http://www.music123.com/guitars/gibson-icon-60s-j-180-custom-ebony-acoustic-guitar

     

    I'm very interested to see what the orange label says and also contact Montana to get the details.

  14. NGD incoming! I never thought Gibson would make an Everly Bros guitar with the period correct bridge, was even told by a dealer that Gibson doesn't make it because they don't have the original template. I guess the Japanese buyers have more leverage than the US dealers. Has anyone ever heard of a 60s reissue J180? There was a guy I was in contact with that was selling a reissue J180 for 10K and he would not even consider anything less!

     

    Well I found it and it's coming home!

     

    Will let you all know when it comes in - probably next week.

     

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  15. Here it is sanded from 1500 to 2000 to 2500 first dry then wet.

     

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    The color matches really close on those paint pens. I am pleasantly surprised.

     

    Buffed with polishing compound...

     

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    Some spots look like they're faded, but there's actually no "grooves" there so the paint wouldn't hold. Otherwise, I'm pleased with the outcome.

     

    A bit of brown shoe polish to add a little patina to the white. It's subtle but I think it adds a lot of character to it.

     

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    There it is... I hope someone finds this helpful.

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