Looking for new tuners on an '01 J-45

[WoodSkin&Steel]

I need to replace the tuners on my '01 J-45. Is there something that will not require massive drilling and that will stay in tune? It seems like the stock tuners drift almost every time I play. Thank you all...

[modoc_333]

are you sure the nut isn't the issue? after 7 years of having strings run through them, it's possible that it nees a little work. it may have not been done right to start with, or you could be using a set where all of the strings aren't the exact guage the nut was cut for. (even 12s of 2 different brands will vary on the middle strings).

i only ask b/c 99% of the time, the tuning problem is NOT the fault of the machine heads... but they always get blamed b/c they seem to be the most obvious option.

[WoodSkin&Steel]

It is usually the G and B strings that go out - would the nut be causing this problem?I am using Elixer light guage strings (standard Light)

[Rosewoody]

Could be the nut, could be the way you tie off the strings at the post. I agree with Modoc, prolly not the tuners. I have never had "bad" tuners, but I have thought I did. Even cheap contemporary tuners like Pings hold up very well. This is not so true for the older, vintage Klusons, but I'm pretty sure you have the Gotoh Kluson k-offs, which are decent tuners. You could try try lubing nut w/a little graphite, too.