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I still am waiting for my Dark Fire (Arhhg!! I ordered it December 18, 2008)

 

When I receive it, can I do the following?

 

When I come up with a sound I like in Guitar Rig. Can I LOAD that into the Dark Fire and take it to a gig and "play" that patch

from just the Dark Fire?

 

Thanks,

 

Joe D.

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When I come up with a sound I like in Guitar Rig. Can I LOAD that into the Dark Fire and take it to a gig and "play" that patch

from just the Dark Fire?

 

no

 

you need RIP and a computer.

 

if you want onboard amp sounds - seek a used alesis x-guitar:

 

but they are very limited and no editing -

 

http://www.guitarplayer.com/article/alesis-x-guitar/Jun-05/10108

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Thanks elantric,

 

So, to take this one step further (since I'm still waiting for my Dark Fire).

 

At the gig, I have my DF hooked into the RIP into the laptop then to an AMP (not sure of the order).

Can I have a list of "favorite patches" in Guitar Rig. If so, how do you access those patches?

The laptop? the MCK? Other ways?

 

I have an older Native Instruments Guitar Rig "Rig Kontrol" like the one here:

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Native-Instruments-Guitar-Rig-Kontrol_W0QQitemZ290299290620QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item290299290620&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

 

Would I be able to utilize this with my DF and newer Guitar Rig? It doesn't have USB.

 

Thanks for any insight.

 

Later,

 

Joe D.

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JSD88 - The old original Rig Kontrol used short burst pulses directly in the audio stream.

 

I suspect this will conflict with the Dark Fire RIP - best to use an alternative controller.

 

At this hour your choices are:

 

(simple)

 

* NI Rig Kontrol III - direct USB connection - disregard its audio connections

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(traditional)

* Behringer FCB-1010 MIDI footcontroller with third party MIDI to USB Interface

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* Roland FC-300 MIDI footcontroller with a third party MIDI to USB Interface

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* Yamaha MFC-10 MIDI footcontroller with third party MIDI to USB Interface

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(exotic)

 

* Apple Itouch / Iphone running ITM Matrix as a wireless remote guitar / guitar strap / mic stand mounted GR3 preset change controller: - it sends proprietary command to your WinXP, Vista, Mac machine running the server application which sends MIDI commands to your audio application.

http://www.itouchmidi.com/?q=node/5

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* a Keyboard MIDI controller - Novation X-Station, Roland PCR-30, etc.

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* A multiuse MIDI controller ( Behringer BCR-2000, Lemur,

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* An old multiFX unit which transmits MIDI - I'm using a POD XT Live - strictly as a MIDI controller.

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Google search on "MIDI Controller for more ideas!

 

http://tinyurl.com/coh58x

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I would recommend:

 

DF -> RIP

RIP Line Out -> Active Monitors or Mixing Console

RIP Firewire -> Computer

Rig Kontrol USB -> Computer

 

Don't use Audio In and Audio Out of the Rig Kontrol

Select the RIP in the audio configuration of GR3

 

I have'nt got my DF yet, but i think the RIP has lower latency as the Rig Kontrol

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No

You should use:

 

DF->RIP->Firewire to Computer >RIP Outputs > Two Active Monitors

 

 

To toggle GR3 presets and make changes on the fly with Guitar Rig

 

Also run

 

Rig Kontrol-USB >Computer - then in GR3 preferences, define the Rig Control as control device "Preferences".

 

Do not use the Rig Control Audio In or Out.

 

Use RIP for Audio In and Audio Out

 

More here:

 

http://forums.gibson.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=13102

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Thanks for the inputs, guys. I just got a few minutes to tinker around and those monitors sound great (I got the Samson Resolv 65A Active ones that Elantric recommended in another thread).

 

Hopefully I'll get a bit longer tomorrow to check it out.

 

Thanks again!

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FWIW - Its best to use balanced TRS to XLR cables between RIP Outputs and each Resolve 65A Input

 

http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Horizon-XLRTRS-Cable?sku=336971&src=3WFRWXX&ZYXSEM=0&CAWELAID=26023210

 

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Resolve 65A (on sale)

http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-SAM-RES65A-LIST

 

They are good bang for the buck - and they won a blind Near Field monitor shoot out in a UK recording magazine.

 

 

Owners Manual

http://cachepe.zzounds.com/media/Resolv65a_ownman_v4w-52291bcfb38498704fdeea69cb03daed.pdf

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I'm new to the whole computer music scene here, so I may be missing something very easy. But, I go to GR3 preferences, midi input, and the only option is Guitar Rig 3 Virtual Input and I can't see a way to add another input to assign to the Rig Kontrol. Any ideas?

 

Thanks for the time, guys.

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I am looking for a foot controller that can be used for both Guitar Rig and separately for the built in effects of an amp. I was thinking about getting something like this as the amp: http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Line-6-Spider-III-150-Modeling-Combo-Amplifier?sku=482270

 

This is a foot controller that is compatible with the amp, but it probably couldn't work with Guitar Rig, right?

http://line6.com/footcontrollers/fbvshortboard.html

 

Something like a Behringer FCB-1010 probably wouldn't work with the amp, right?

 

Is there any way to have one foot controller for both? I don't always want to use Guitar Rig and I don't want to have two foot controllers.

 

Any suggestions?

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