dukemaster Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Anyone have any other links or word from Messe '09? Post 'em here. I know the DF is there from a post on the forum here and the picture at the bottom of a post here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulhuru Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Yep, I played the very DF pictures there on that workstation. Pups were in phase, it sounded great. So I took the opportunity to discuss my DF polarity issue with Gibson team. Once having made contact with the right persons (I nearly got to speak with Henri, or his clone...) They were friendly and helpful and they said that all will be fixed in due time. What they said also made it clear that sometime down the line all DF will ship, with finalized hardware and software. Even if I was there on the first day, I had the feeling they already did have DF owners... or pre-owners (!) visiting. Now we must understand them (I work with a manufacturer present in FF, so I certainly can understand their position): if they were to hint at dates or give too precise information, this would instantly be published here, for a start. So they rather be sure of what is announced before releasing any specific information. Hence current silence. Knowing a bit about development cycles, hard or soft, what seem to be an eternity from a user's point of view can just be a rush moment when putting all these bits & chips together. So it's been 3 month since first shipments and the decision to update DF, that is a long time to wait for something, but a very short time for actually creating it. Ask Einstein. But ,still, this gives room for doing some solid work, so we should have some news... "soon". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukemaster Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'll be placing an order for one this weekend in an effort to get one in the next run/shipment rumored to be late April - early May. Hopefully it will be soon and most if not all bugs will be resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
har Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/Frankfurt-for-Musikmesse-401/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudongshi Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 http://forums.gibson.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=16868 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukemaster Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share Posted April 5, 2009 That's it? Nothing more? Harmony Central hasn't updated either. There's not much word anywhere about Dark Fire. I went to my local music store and put my order in and they had informed me that they had ordered 10 during the first run but only recieved 2 before Gibson stopped. They're waiting to hear from their rep or Henri? about expected ship dates again. It's good to know they halted shipping to fix bugs but it's been a while right? I'm gettin' antsy while anticipating taking delivery of the DF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spindrift Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Nothing more than usual. Gibson doesn't communicate. Finally if! DarkFire the guitar the most technologically advanced bla bla bla. But there are bugs that we must solve bla bla bla. They work over the past 4 months but...Nothing. My disapointment gradually leaves me for anger. It really suck. I expected much of the messe, I expected answers....And...NOTHING AGAIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukemaster Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 Well, I'm new to this and haven't been waiting for months as others have. Therefore my patience is at a higher level. I'm sure a company like Gibson isn't going to admit defeat over some glitches as they're minor at best. They just need time to make it right. I respect them for that and I've been through this with other manufacturers as well. I would just like some new material to drool over whilst I wait. How about some sound bites from those who are lucky enough to already have one of these? I think I'll start a new thread just for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simont Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Guys, I'm just back from Messe where I had meetings with both Chris Adams and some of the Gibson managment team. They have done extensive work on the guitar and assuming no new problems arise the Dark Fires will begin shipping again in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elantric Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Guys, I'm just back from Messe where I had meetings with both Chris Adams and some of the Gibson management team.They have done extensive work on the guitar and assuming no new problems arise the Dark Fires will begin shipping again in May. All the above is indeed an accurate assessment of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockin365 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Guys' date=' I'm just back from Messe where I had meetings with both Chris Adams and some of the Gibson managment team. They have done extensive work on the guitar and assuming no new problems arise the Dark Fires will begin shipping again in May. [/quote'] At last a man with some half tidy information.!! Thanks for sharing that with all the rest of us waiting in wonder. It's very much appreciated ) :D Did you have a good time at messe? Get to try out the DF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypurple Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Yes, thanks for the info. Just in time given my rant on another topic! Shipping in May to US or globally? Still looks like late June in UK if coming on the boat.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elantric Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I understand these will be produced in May to complete the 4K total production run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simont Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 At last a man with some half tidy information.!! Thanks for sharing that with all the rest of us waiting in wonder. It's very much appreciated ) Did you have a good time at messe? Get to try out the DF? I had a great time thanks. Tried out 5 different DF'S. All were EF's and had the MCK noise problems This has been substantially addressed for the next batch but will depend on user Piezo and PEQ settings. I left a "have not" gR3 preset on each macbook I used in case any of us turned up. Great to play them at last and the whole trip has reignited my enthusiasum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockin365 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Great to play them at last and the whole trip has reignited my enthusiasum. That's really great to hear Simon, I like others patiently waiting will sure to be a little more put at ease of their purchase by hearing those words, Great Stuff Wish i could have got out to messe, but home and work commitments dont permit unfortunatly. Glad you had a good time. Thanks again. :o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoPimp Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 two reliable very knowledgable guitar professionals who tried out the DF for me at MM both said it's a beautifull and well playing guitar ... top-woods on the DFs were apparently quite flamed (yeehah ..) .. they couldn't really comment on the sound since it was quite crowded and noisy when they were there overall they agreed that it looks and plays very well for such a 'cheap' guitar (considering half the price of the DF is software and electronics) ... that hurt a bit, but coming from Gibson Custom Shop and PRS private Stock owners it was to be expected ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukemaster Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 That's great news!!!! They should change their "Latest News" on their website to reflect it as well don't ya think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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