strat2 Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 I really like the new Propehcy Paul with the speed taper D neck. Musicians Friend shows the one I want, the cutaway goes clear down to the 24 th fret. The picture shown at Same Day is totally wrong , the cutaway only cuts away to the 22nd fret. Both pictures show the correct GX color Red.....same pups etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Interesting... Good eye! Looks like different neck inset. MF at 18th, SD at 16th fret. Check the thinnest part of the bodies and how it lines up with the PU. Also check how the controls line up with the bridge. The SD has Schaller straplocks as well. The SD is the version Epiphone is showing on their site. ^ MF SD > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat2 Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 Interesting... Good eye! Looks like different neck inset. MF at 18th' date=' SD at 16th fret. Check the thinnest part of the bodies and how it lines up with the PU. Also check how the controls line up with the bridge. The SD has Schaller straplocks as well.The SD is the version Epiphone is showing on their site. [img']http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/9/0/3/544903.jpg[/img] ^ MF SD > ... So the SD is what the epi site show's too, that really sucks, that tells me the MF guit is a concept and not what I can buy. It's possible they get a special run at MF , but I doubt it and can't count on it. I've seen wrong photo's posted at MF before. I will definetly not buy this guitar, I fell in love with the 18th fret joint version instantly , the 16th fret (neck inset) no way grrrrrr........ Thanks for checking the epi site, I couldn't download the pdf......... One of the first things (like you pointed out) that I noticed between the gx and the ex is that the body appears to have been routed the same as far as electronics, then you can see they move the bridge forward two frets on the version I would have been buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubstar Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 hmmm, I wouldn't necessarily trust either photo...epiphone's press site photos are not always correct...best bet is a place like sweetwater that might put actual photos up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat2 Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 I hope someone from Gibson/Epi will step in and clarify, Here's the two close together : The one I would deff., buy: :D/ The one I would have no interest at all in : I have an idea Sweatwater is far down the list form having these in stock...but I'll check LOL.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat2 Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 They don't .... same file photo that Same Day is displaying..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I also prefer the MF model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill67 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Whats the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat2 Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 Whats the difference? Playability ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Well, both the Epi Press photos (GX and EX) show the joint at the 16th fret so I'd bet that that's what they are going to have. However, all you need to do is pop off an email to service@gibson.com; if anyone will have the answer they'd be the ones. Don't bother attaching a bunch of pictures, just ask if the neck joins at the 16th or the 18th fret as there is some confusion in this area due to different resellers posting different images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V-Type Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Hey strat2. Seen you at the HC as well. I sent Epiphone and Gibson Customer Info's a email asking WTF is up. One picture has 22 frets and one has 24 then I see an Ebay EMG example with 22 frets as well. What gives cause all the Ads Epi and Gibbo and GC,MF send me say and show 24 frets and more friendly neck lower cutout access. Yousd think a few Gibson employees would look here now and then. But who knows. Because this model is so new Not a lot if anyone has one yet. Crazy cause theyve been advertising for almost 6 months now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat2 Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 Well' date=' both the Epi Press photos (GX and EX) show the joint at the 16th fret so I'd bet that that's what they are going to have. However, all you need to do is pop off an email to service@gibson.com; if anyone will have the answer they'd be the ones. Don't bother attaching a bunch of pictures, just ask if the neck joins at the 16th or the 18th fret as there is soime confusion in this area due to different resellers posting different images.[/quote'] Thanks for the email address, the Epi site doesn't give any contact info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat2 Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 Hey strat2. Seen you at the HC as well.I sent Epiphone and Gibson Customer Info's a email asking WTF is up. One picture has 22 frets and one has 24 then I see an Ebay EMG example with 22 frets as well. What gives cause all the Ads Epi and Gibbo and GC' date='MF send me say and show 24 frets and more friendly neck lower cutout access. Yousd think a few Gibson employees would look here now and then. But who knows. Because this model is so new Not a lot if anyone has one yet. Crazy cause theyve been advertising for almost 6 months now.. [/quote'] Hey V-Type, Nice to see you here..... I think the 22 fretter we've seen on ebay is just an earlier release, the guy selling it never sold anything on ebay before , I think this is just something he had bought for himself a while ago, not sure how he could call it New though , that's strange, I think possibly it's maybe like new I doubt he's a dealer, also as we discovered it's not a Gx either it's an EX. The new Prophecys' are 24 fret period , from what I see. I'll send an inquiry too, very specifically I guess the question I'll ask is does the LP gx neck join the body at the 16th fret or the 18th fret, that pretty much would settle (my) questions.If it joins at the 16th fret then it's just another of thousands of LP knock off stories, nothing new.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshalClaw Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 I am also VERY interested in finding out what is going on here. I also noticed that the GC photos have a true ebony-looking neck, whereas the other photo looks almost like a rosewood neck painted black (poorly). Thanks for looking into this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshalClaw Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Hmmm.... on these YouTube videos (the only ones I've seen of this guitar)... the neck looks joined on fret 16. See these links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAKhNVH3z7M&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB4dcMKASi4&feature=related Now I haven't yet heard back from these guys where they got their guitars... But not good news... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat2 Posted April 29, 2008 Author Share Posted April 29, 2008 I am also VERY interested in finding out what is going on here.I also noticed that the GC photos have a true ebony-looking neck' date=' whereas the other photo looks almost like a rosewood neck painted black (poorly). Thanks for looking into this...[/quote'] Yea eventually they'll give us a heads up........ I pretty much discount that rosewood looking ebay guit, prbably an earlier release..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat2 Posted April 29, 2008 Author Share Posted April 29, 2008 Hmmm.... on these YouTube videos (the only ones I've seen of this guitar)... the neck looks joined on fret 16.See these links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAKhNVH3z7M&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB4dcMKASi4&feature=related Now I haven't yet heard back from these guys where they got their guitars... But not good news... Great ' date=' I'll check it out , didn't think to look at youtube......'](*,)/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat2 Posted April 29, 2008 Author Share Posted April 29, 2008 geese do not want , I looked at the first clip , 16th fret neck joint..... I'll look at the other clip later.....not holding my breath.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshalClaw Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 For me, I could live with the 16th fret neck joint... but I still want to know what is up with the discrepency and I also would like some official reassurance on the quality (and blackness) of the ebony fretboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshalClaw Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Okay...another update... those 2 guys on the Youtube videos... one is from Sweden and the other is from the UK. So I don't know if the guitars they received are the same as what we'd get in the US or not. It probably does explain how they have them before they seem available here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat2 Posted May 1, 2008 Author Share Posted May 1, 2008 For me' date=' I could live with the 16th fret neck joint... but I still want to know what is up with the discrepency and I also would like some official reassurance on the quality (and blackness) of the ebony fretboard.[/quote'] I'd have never taken a second look or had any interest in the guit had it not been the 18th fret joint with fantastic upper fret access. The rosewood looking issue will be a non issue, they'll not be selling an ebony board that looks like rosewood here in the US, that ebay deal I'm sure was just as I said before, it was just an early release, they probably didn't even boast ebony at the time. I'm still waiting to hear from Gibson.........on the GX. I have a feeling these are just going into production as we speak , they put out the feelers to see what kind of response they get, to best gauge production, I don't blame them it makes good business sense. I hope they won't be building the guitar I fell in love with , cause I could save some money....LOL I sure would never consider spending $700.00 on another LP with crappy uppper fret access....:P Cheers..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat2 Posted May 1, 2008 Author Share Posted May 1, 2008 For me' date=' I could live with the 16th fret neck joint... but I still want to know what is up with the discrepency and I also would like some official reassurance on the quality (and blackness) of the ebony fretboard.[/quote'] I'd have never taken a second look or had any interest in the guit had it not been the 18th fret joint with fantastic upper fret access. I'm sure there are plenty that will agree with you, just not my thing. Actually Rondo has a 24 fret LP out that has great upper fret access, but it doesn't have the classy finish that epi plans to sell, I really like the white binding, not crazy about quilt but it does look nice. The rosewood looking issue will be a non issue, they'll not be selling an ebony board that looks like rosewood here in the US, that ebay deal I'm sure was just as I said before, it was just an early release, they probably didn't even boast ebony at the time. I'm still waiting to hear from Gibson.........on the GX. I have a feeling these are just going into production as we speak , they put out the feelers to see what kind of response they get, to best gauge production, I don't blame them it makes good business sense. I hope they won't be building the guitar I fell in love with , cause I could save some money....LOL I sure would never consider spending $700.00 on another LP with crappy uppper fret access....:P Cheers..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat2 Posted May 1, 2008 Author Share Posted May 1, 2008 For me' date=' I could live with the 16th fret neck joint... but I still want to know what is up with the discrepency and I also would like some official reassurance on the quality (and blackness) of the ebony fretboard.[/quote'] I'd have never taken a second look or had any interest in the guit had it not been the 18th fret joint with fantastic upper fret access. I'm sure there are plenty that will agree with you, just not my thing. Actually Rondo has a 24 fret LP out that has great upper fret access, but it doesn't have the classy finish that epi plans to sell, I really like the white binding, not crazy about quilt but it does look nice. The rosewood looking issue will be a non issue, they'll not be selling an ebony board that looks like rosewood here in the US, that ebay deal I'm sure was just as I said before, it was just an early release, they probably didn't even boast ebony at the time. I'm still waiting to hear from Gibson.........on the GX. I have a feeling these are just going into production as we speak , they put out the feelers to see what kind of response they get, to best gauge production, I don't blame them it makes good business sense. I hope they won't be building the guitar I fell in love with , cause I could save some money....LOL I sure would never consider spending $700.00 on another LP with poor uppper fret access....;) Cheers..... Edit/Add...... I deleted the duplicates,,, I kept getting this 'Forum is offline' notice that said 'try agian' so I did....LOL........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat2 Posted May 1, 2008 Author Share Posted May 1, 2008 For me' date=' I could live with the 16th fret neck joint... but I still want to know what is up with the discrepency and I also would like some official reassurance on the quality (and blackness) of the ebony fretboard.[/quote'] I'd have never taken a second look or had any interest in the guit had it not been the 18th fret joint with fantastic upper fret access. I'm sure there are plenty that will agree with you, just not my thing. Actually Rondo has a 24 fret LP out that has great upper fret access, but it doesn't have the classy finish that epi plans to sell, I really like the white binding, not crazy about quilt but it does look nice. The rosewood looking issue will be a non issue, they'll not be selling an ebony board that looks like rosewood here in the US, that ebay deal I'm sure was just as I said before, it was just an early release, they probably didn't even boast ebony at the time. I'm still waiting to hear from Gibson.........on the GX. I have a feeling these are just going into production as we speak , they put out the feelers to see what kind of response they get, to best gauge production, I don't blame them it makes good business sense. I hope they won't be building the guitar I fell in love with , cause I could save some money....LOL I sure would never consider spending $700.00 on another LP with poor uppper fret access....;) Cheers..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat2 Posted May 3, 2008 Author Share Posted May 3, 2008 Apparently they don't know..... Hottest new series out , and no response.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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