sailorman Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I have an Elitist Casino, maybe a year old. It has a very noticable dead note, eg., the E on the 14th fret of the D string and on the 9th fret of the G string. All the notes around it are fine (Eb, F, etc.) and an open E 1st string 5th fret B string are not as evident. I posted a thread on the Harmony Central forum and got a very detailed explanation of a university study, but what I'm really interested in here is this; does anyone else with a Casino have a similar issue? I'm going to take it to an authorized Gibson/Epi repair center but thought I'd see what you folks might know about it. Otherwise, I love the guitar, especially for our Beatles tunes. Thanks..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookelputz Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I have an Elitist Casino' date=' maybe a year old. It has a very noticable dead note, eg., the E on the 14th fret of the D string and on the 9th fret of the G string. All the notes around it are fine (Eb, F, etc.) and an open E 1st string 5th fret B string are not as evident. I posted a thread on the Harmony Central forum and got a very detailed explanation of a university study, but what I'm really interested in here is this; does anyone else with a Casino have a similar issue? I'm going to take it to an authorized Gibson/Epi repair center but thought I'd see what you folks might know about it. Otherwise, I love the guitar, especially for our Beatles tunes. Thanks..![/quote'] Sounds like it could be a fret height issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pohatu771 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Sounds like it could be a fret height issue. On two different frets of two different strings? I don't know any of the science behind it, but I imagine it has something to do with that frequency. I've seen guitars before that seem to respond differently to certain pitches. I played a cheap Lyon (by Washburn) once that would sustain forever on a G, held at the fifth fret of the D string, or the open G string. It's something to do with resonance or something... I didn't do well in physics, but I watch a lot of Mythbusters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookelputz Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Perhaps more than one fret is high or low? Happens. Worth checking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbbysB4Epis Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I have an Elitist Casino' date=' maybe a year old. It has a very noticable dead note, eg., the E on the 14th fret of the D string and on the 9th fret of the G string. All the notes around it are fine (Eb, F, etc.) and an open E 1st string 5th fret B string are not as evident.[/quote']Are the strings a year old as well? Start there. Otherwise' date=' I love the guitar, especially for our Beatles tunes. Thanks..![/quote'] Great guitars for Beatles Tunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailorman Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 I've checked all frets and that is not the issue. First thing I did was change the strings, even changing to a different gauge just for grins; no improvement. I have a Gibson SG Classic, also P90s. It has a similar problem but on an Eb, eg., 1 fret lower on both the G and D strings. Same problem though, the note dies out very quickly leaving just ringing overtones. The university study from the HC reply talked about it being a neck resonance; said that, if you held the headstock against the wall, the problem note would probably be OK. I tried this and sure enough, the problem was not as bad. Still curious if this is common with Casino's, P90 guitars, or just people born in the 50's (seems just as likely at this point). thanks for the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pohatu771 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Well, the Lyon I played is cheap, has humbuckers, and I was born in the 80s. The kid who owns it was born in the 90s. I think we can at least rule the decade out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennW Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I'm not very scientific, but I read something which said all necks have dead spots. The trick is to get the dead spots to be between the fretted notes so they aren't heard...somewhere in the semi-tones. Basses are notorious for dead spots around the 5-7th frets on the G string. With your guitar being a set neck, you might be stuck with it...don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookelputz Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Well, that was the easiest fix I could think of. Isn't there supposed to be some kind of bolt-on something or other that clips on the headstock to improve sustain? Could something like that help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBlues Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Dead spots are not normal... you have an issue that is probably related to your neck adjusting just a little bit... Since it is only a year old.... It doesn't take much adjusting for you to get buzzing and dead spots... 2 remedies... 1) file down the high frets to adjust for a neck that is not perfectly straight... 2) raise your action by adjusting the truss rod or raising your bridge... or both... I have an Epi es-295 that had buzzing issues... I spent $100 for some fret work and now the neck and frets are f-ing perfectly aligned... or sell it.. depends on how much you like the axe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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