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I have an Elitist Casino, maybe a year old. It has a very noticable dead note, eg., the E on the 14th fret of the D string and on the 9th fret of the G string. All the notes around it are fine (Eb, F, etc.) and an open E 1st string 5th fret B string are not as evident.

 

I posted a thread on the Harmony Central forum and got a very detailed explanation of a university study, but what I'm really interested in here is this; does anyone else with a Casino have a similar issue? I'm going to take it to an authorized Gibson/Epi repair center but thought I'd see what you folks might know about it.

 

Otherwise, I love the guitar, especially for our Beatles tunes.

 

Thanks..!

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I have an Elitist Casino' date=' maybe a year old. It has a very noticable dead note, eg., the E on the 14th fret of the D string and on the 9th fret of the G string. All the notes around it are fine (Eb, F, etc.) and an open E 1st string 5th fret B string are not as evident.

 

I posted a thread on the Harmony Central forum and got a very detailed explanation of a university study, but what I'm really interested in here is this; does anyone else with a Casino have a similar issue? I'm going to take it to an authorized Gibson/Epi repair center but thought I'd see what you folks might know about it.

 

Otherwise, I love the guitar, especially for our Beatles tunes.

 

Thanks..![/quote']

 

Sounds like it could be a fret height issue.

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Sounds like it could be a fret height issue.

On two different frets of two different strings?

 

I don't know any of the science behind it, but I imagine it has something to do with that frequency. I've seen guitars before that seem to respond differently to certain pitches. I played a cheap Lyon (by Washburn) once that would sustain forever on a G, held at the fifth fret of the D string, or the open G string.

 

It's something to do with resonance or something... I didn't do well in physics, but I watch a lot of Mythbusters.

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I have an Elitist Casino' date=' maybe a year old. It has a very noticable dead note, eg., the E on the 14th fret of the D string and on the 9th fret of the G string. All the notes around it are fine (Eb, F, etc.) and an open E 1st string 5th fret B string are not as evident.[/quote']

Are the strings a year old as well? Start there.

 

 

Otherwise' date=' I love the guitar, especially for our Beatles tunes.

 

Thanks..![/quote']

 

Great guitars for Beatles Tunes.

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I've checked all frets and that is not the issue. First thing I did was change the strings, even changing to a different gauge just for grins; no improvement.

 

I have a Gibson SG Classic, also P90s. It has a similar problem but on an Eb, eg., 1 fret lower on both the G and D strings. Same problem though, the note dies out very quickly leaving just ringing overtones.

 

The university study from the HC reply talked about it being a neck resonance; said that, if you held the headstock against the wall, the problem note would probably be OK. I tried this and sure enough, the problem was not as bad.

 

Still curious if this is common with Casino's, P90 guitars, or just people born in the 50's (seems just as likely at this point).

 

thanks for the replies.

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I'm not very scientific, but I read something which said all necks have dead spots. The trick is to get the dead spots to be between the fretted notes so they aren't heard...somewhere in the semi-tones. Basses are notorious for dead spots around the 5-7th frets on the G string. With your guitar being a set neck, you might be stuck with it...don't know.

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Dead spots are not normal... you have an issue that is probably related to your neck adjusting just a little bit... Since it is only a year old.... It doesn't take much adjusting for you to get buzzing and dead spots...

 

2 remedies...

 

1) file down the high frets to adjust for a neck that is not perfectly straight...

2) raise your action by adjusting the truss rod or raising your bridge...

 

or both...

 

I have an Epi es-295 that had buzzing issues... I spent $100 for some fret work and now the neck and frets are f-ing perfectly aligned...

 

or sell it.. depends on how much you like the axe...

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