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Any more ES-345, or ES-355's purchased?


charlie brown

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My 355 arrived a couple months back. The frets needed to be cleaned up a bit, but other than that...killer guitar. Plays great, sounds great. Sure the Bigsby knocks her out of tune sometimes, but hey...that's the nature of the beast. Brought her into the studio 2 weeks ago and one of our guitar players was asked to put a lead part on a song that didn't normally have a lead. He reached for a LP hanging on the wall, and a string snapped while he was warming up. I handed him the 355 and went back into the control room to listen to the takes. Whoa!!! tone monster. he took about 5 passes and never had any tuning issues even though he was doing some heavy bends. He loved it and she sounded awesome.

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Hi guys, I was just able to find a 345 used and I love it.

 

That said, it doesn't want to hold pitch very well even without using the bigsby. I figured that I would swap out the Wilkinson stock tuners for some locking ones but I didn't want to re-drill so I'll probably get some of the Gotoh SD90's to drop in. I also am pondering a nut change but may do the bridge first.

 

Anything else I should consider?

 

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If you are having tuning stability issues I would do the nut first, then the bridge, then the tuners. I doubt that the tuners are the problem. You probably don't even need to replace the nut, just widen the slots a little and/or use some lubricant (graphite, nuts sauce, or chapstick).

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If you are having tuning stability issues I would do the nut first, then the bridge, then the tuners. I doubt that the tuners are the problem. You probably don't even need to replace the nut, just widen the slots a little and/or use some lubricant (graphite, nuts sauce, or chapstick).

 

Thanks Gunner - are you of the choir that suggests the graphite nut / roller bridge upgrade?

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If the nut is filed properly then I don't think a graphite nut is necessary, though it certainly doesn't hurt.

 

I put a Wilkinson roller bridge on my Epi 355. It works fine, but frankly I don't recall having any tuning stability issues once the nut was fixed. I installed the roller on the 355 primarily to get rid of the heavy rattle, and again, the rollers don't hurt (though the high E string has occasionally popped out of the roller during heavy bending).

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If the nut is filed properly then I don't think a graphite nut is necessary, though it certainly doesn't hurt.

 

I put a Wilkinson roller bridge on my Epi 355. It works fine, but frankly I don't recall having any tuning stability issues once the nut was fixed. I installed the roller on the 355 primarily to get rid of the heavy rattle, and again, the rollers don't hurt (though the high E string has occasionally popped out of the roller during heavy bending).

 

So, did you *change* the nut completely or just widen the slots?

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On my guitar, even after a small bend with the Bigsby, my 4th, 5th and 6th strings go flat. One bend and they are out of tune.

 

I checked the nut and it seemed that those strings were a little tight in there so I widened them up a bit to the point where they seem to fit a little more comfortably. After tuning back up, the same thing happens. Flat.

 

Without using the Bigsby the guitar plays and feels great but it is a lost cause after using it once, LOL! It also seems VERY stiff too. I know it's not a top end model Biggs but the ones on the pro series Gretsch guitars feel like butter.

 

So....

 


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  • Maybe work with the slots some more?
  • Lube the nut?
  • Replace the nut?
  • Order the roller bridge?
  • Put graphite saddles in the stock bridge?
  • Order a Trapeze tailpiece and let the Bigsby go for now?

Thoughts?

 

Thanks!

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Definitely lube the nut if you haven't yet. One thing you can do to check the nut is to alternately bend each string on each side of the nut with a tuner installed to see if any particular string is sticking.

 

If it is not the nut I would try the roller bridge.

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Definitely lube the nut if you haven't yet. One thing you can do to check the nut is to alternately bend each string on each side of the nut with a tuner installed to see if any particular string is sticking.

 

If it is not the nut I would try the roller bridge.

 

Widened the slots and the strings have plenty of room to breathe but one Bigsby bend still causes things to go flat.

 

I may go with the roller bridge or I may pull it and go with a trapeze tailpiece.

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