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Also the last owner sold it to me with a 2 screws TRC. I took it off at home and realized it was a 3 holes truss rod cover. I did some search to find Gibson Dove of that era with a 3 screws truss rod cover and I found :

https://reverb.com/item/20209419-gibson-dove-1975-sunburst

https://www.pbase.com/wonderotter/image/94237782/original

https://reverb.com/uk/item/1343002-gibson-dove-1975-truss-rod-cover

 

[Another fake vintage Dove?]

Great.

Do you have any pic of the peaked cut out to see the differences with mine ? 

about the bridge, i found Doves were equipped with tune-o-matic until 1968. In 1969, it was changed for the adjustable with 2 screws and in 1970 by the non-adjustable sadle but i'm not 100% sure of those informations. And you're right, the bridge is not flat.

There's a dot on the «i» on the logo. In my searches, i read the dot was remove between 1967 and 1972 on the logo. Mine have a dot.

Those points and the overall condition of the guitar [fret wear, cracks in the vernish, patine on the binding] made me believe it was made between 1970 and 1975.

[Another fake vintage Dove?]

Thank you 62burst.

As I wrote, i am pretty sure now it is a copy😤. 

That guitar was made somewhere between 1970 and 1975.

My question is : In the 70th,  who made those copies with the very real brand name «Gibson» inlay on the headstock? It is probably a japan copy but in that period of time, from what I saw on the net, all copies had the name of the maker [Ibanez, Pearl, Lyle, Penco, etc} on the headstock and not the «Gibson» brand name.

 

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Hi everyone,

I bought that old guitar from a man in Montréal in may 2020. He told me that old 1967 Gibson Dove was in his family from decades and decided to sell it cause he was playing electric only. What a  liar and a thief. 

After more then 5 months trying to find some informations on my guitar, I contacted Gibson and they told me it's not a real Gibson ... Yes I bought a fake. It's a very nice guitar with a beautiful sound but it's a fake! Probably made between 1970 and 1975.

The only thing is the brand name on the headstock. From what I saw on the net, all the Japan / China copies of that period have there name on the headstock. Mine have the very «real» Gibson on the headstock. In fact, I cant find any copy of that era with the «Gibson» inlay name on the headstock.

My question is who made that copy? 

Full photo of my guitar is in my other intruce yourself topic.

 

Thanks

Olive

[Hello]

Hey people, I'm very happy to be here with you all and talk and read about Gibson. I have a 1956 ES-225T and a 2007 SG. Both fantastics guitars.

What brings me here ... A 1967 Dove or probably a fake one that i bought in may 2020. I need your help to tell me more about my real / fake (????) Dove. 

I bought that old guitar from a guy name James Savey in Montréal. This man told me that old Gibson was in his family for decades and he decided to sell it cause he was playing electric only. At the same time, i was looking for an old guitar to restore. The old Dove is a player and she had hard time in the past as the tuners were changed, the back of the neck and the headstock were sanded. And yes, there is fret wear and the vernish on top is crack. But what a nice guitar and the perfect project for me in this Covid period of time.

Bought it for 2K. Fantastic deal no? 

First thing I did at home was to had a look on the truss rod. Wow, the truss rod cover is not original! There's 3 holes for the cover and the seller put a 2 holes cover? What the f--k?

I tried to find a 1967 truss rod cover with 3 holes and I found one already sold on reverb.

Gibson Dove 1975 truss rod cover | Dancing Man Music | Reverb

Then a friend told me my old Dove was a copy!!!! I contacted Gibson, send pics and Terry Greene confirm the diagnostic : he thinks it's a fake.

There's a serial number on the back of the headstock : 063999 but no «Made in USA». The logo seem very real Gibson inlay. The bridge seem to be a real one too but it's adjustable. I saw some like this on the net.

I dont know what to think. Is it a real or a copy? If it's a copy who is the maker? If it's a copy, how much does it worth?

I tried to contact the seller James Savey to know more about the guitar and he doesn't call me back.

Thanks for your help