aminaziz92 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 i know that the casino is a hollowbody not a semihollow guitar and produces a lot of feedback when given a lot of gain. but can the casino play metal ranging from metallica to slipknot? can someone with a casino post a video of the casino to be played in high distortion pedals(ds1,mt2)? this is just a question i am not a metal player. just checking the versatility of the casino. and a side question..if the stop bar tailpiece of the dot is removed will there be any marks or holes on the area where the tailpiece used to be because i wanted to put a frequensator on the dot. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiggy Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Mate, can't answer your question about casino, but c'mon, do you think stopbar is holding on st spirit? Of course there are holes, and pretty big ones cause tension of the strings requires quite a strenght of tailpiece. There's a picture of how it looks before putting on bigsby: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aminaziz92 Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 oh... so the holes are covered with metal.i thought there were gonna be see thru holes which kinda makes it ugly. oh and btw twiggy whats the tape for on your guitar?so im just going have to drill holes onto the dot to mount the frequensator.in this case ,do i have to cover the holes with metal as well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generation zero Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I don't know about the casino specifically, but I used to have an ibanez artcore hollowbody, with a little thicker body, and I played it in my old hard rock/"metal-ish" band through my old Behringer v-amp rig with no problems, and it sounded great. Main thing is to make sure you have a noise gate of some kind in effect, because a hollowbody will tend to feed back much easier than a solid or semihollow body when you are not playing. When I switched to the Mesa Roadster, the feedback was a serious issue until I got a boss ns-2 noise suppressor pedal. That helped a lot, but it would still feed back occasionally on the high gain channel. If you have a mute you can hit, or at least a clean channel, you should be okay. The sound is huge, but the feedback potential can make it too unpredictable to use on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiggy Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I was putting bigsby on it, so tape was everywhere while trying to measure absolute centre of guitar as my end pin was a bit off centre and couldn't be used for directions And yes, if you don't like (i hope you don't actualy) open holes you'll need to cover them somehow. The one with open holes: The one with covered holes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugatu Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 ^^ I've said it before, but that is a bloody lovely looking guitar! @ Aminaziz: Of all the big body Epiphones, the Casino isn't the most versatile. The dot or sheraton will give better results for heavy rock.... the fully hollow bodies will feed back at high gain settings. But even so, the dot and sheri will feed back at some point. Having said that, if I was into really heavy rock, I wouldn't buy anything other than a solid. There's a good reason why Slash et al play solid bodies! To answer the question: Will the casino play Metal? It most certainly will... but of course at some point it will feed back. Which begs the question.... why would you want it to? And just as importantly, any guitar will play "slipknot" to an extent, just as any guitar will play Simon and Garfunkel. It's limited by the amp, and also the player. So the band doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiggy Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 cheers mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelake07 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Nah. Get a G-400 or Les Paul for metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aminaziz92 Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 wow twiggy that is a really nice guitar.is it an elitist? im not going to get a casino now this is just a question im getting a dot.cool so the casino can play metal.that means it is versatile enough.just wanna try something different.i might get one in the future not for metal of course. but how do you mount the bigsby?is it by drilling more holes on the bottom?is it the same with a frequensator?sorry for asking so many questions.im still a noob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiggy Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 No mate, just regurlar dot. And yeah, you need to drill extra holes, so it's a question how much you want it cause there comes two extra holes on the top and depending on the model three or four at the back. I assume frequensator would take as well at least couple of holes at the back so it's process which can't be undone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aminaziz92 Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 thanks twiggy.ok one laaast pack of questions twiggy....what tuners did your dot came with, is it grovers?or just regular tuners.do they stay in tune regularly?i was thinking about the elitist but heck if the regular dot is allright then that will save me some cash if it sounds as good as the elitist.i heard the sound of the regular dot is kinda equal to the gibson es335. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aminaziz92 Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 and does the strings buzz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiggy Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 No mate, it's not equal at all. At the time of purchase, I asked those lads in the store to let me try 335 and I almost left me dot in there.... Trust me 335 has that something, that dot lacks off. Well i'll see how close I can get to it with set of '57 classics and whole electronics upgrade that is coming really soon + I'm keeping in mind varitone option too. And yeah, it came with grovers. Have no complaints at all. Talking bout staying in tune it really depends how you use bigsby. If it's just light pitch change it stays absolute fine, if doing quite a vibro and longer it will go out of tune but that does not bother me at all. I don't really mind tuning it even after every song cause that takes just a second so... And i've got roller bridge installed. Didn't notice any difference to be honnest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aminaziz92 Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 thanks twiggy. and good luck installing the pickups cuz i heard that it is hard to change pickups on a dot.you are going to need a fishing lines and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiggy Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 no worries mate, It's not as hard as you think. A bit of patience and that's all I need. (well and new pickups lol ). As I mentioned earlier I'd like to try varitone, so was thinking to solder it on while electronics will be out and try somehow before drilling one more hole on me beauty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aminaziz92 Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 i hate drilling holes onto a guitar lol.varitone,sounds complicated.ill just stick with frequensators and p94's lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiggy Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 why don't you get valensi's riviera??? Fabulous looking and got frequensator and P94's. I luv look of frequensator and hunting for guitar with it for quite a while already. But my eyes are on Riviera with minihums and frequensator. That's one gorgeous looking instrument. Anyway still waiting for my riviera p93 to reach it's home. Then will think bout next guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aminaziz92 Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 oh so you are buying the new riviera.i heard it is nice but i prefer the old ones. i was thinking of buying valensi's but that colour is the signature of valensi and i am a big fan of him.that is why im transforming the dot to his riviera with cherry red since there are no rivieras anymore.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiggy Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 short correction mate, I already got it, it's stuck in states as I'm from UK and those guitars are never gonna come here. Hopefully by christmas it will be home. And mate old rivieras are absolutely different as they have minihums and new one got three p90's. I wanted to have guitar with p90s as mine are all humbucker ones. After that the one i'm missing just minihums so older riviera most likely will come across sooner or later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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