pohatu771 Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Everyone else has done it, and I've held out... but I think it may be time to modify my Casino. If I start, I'm going all-out and doing everything I want. No fooling around for me. Tonight I tried playing it a bit, and it was constantly going out of tune... it's like the tuners lost their "grip." The electronic tuner would show that I was flat, so I would raise it a little bit, and then it would be incredibly sharp. It took forever to reach the actual pitch, and then it was out of tune after playing a few chords. Very frustrating. The tone knob (the bridge, anyway) is also very scratchy... I don't often adjust while on stage, but I don't like the idea of needing to and hearing that. My plan, when I can afford it, is to do the following: Replace all electronics - pots, caps, wiring, switch, jack Install black pickup covers Add black pickguard Replace tuners Overall, I'm estimating the cost to be about $120... not really looking forward to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Before you replace the tuners, replace the nut, or widen (slightly) the nut slots. Use some graphite, or #2 pencil lead, in the slots...to lube them, etc. What your describing, is classic nut binding syndrome. You may want to replace the tuners, for aesthetic reasons, or some such, but even the cheap turners are usually more than adequate, to the task. Also, if it's been awhile, since you've played your Casino, it may be that the neck has moved a bit, from temp or more likely, humidy, and needs to be tuned and retuned, until it settles down. I have a lot of that kind of experience, especially in the summer, here in Kansas...where it not only gets hot, but quite humid, too. Drives my guitars (and me) Crazy! Anyway...not trying to talk you out of your "mods," at all...just try the nut thing, first..before changing machine heads... unless you're going to do that, anyway. Might save you some "coin?!" Cheers, CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pohatu771 Posted May 26, 2009 Author Share Posted May 26, 2009 I'd like that to be the issue... I can't confirm this, since I bought it used from Guitar Center, but I feel like the nut was replaced, or else it came with a very good example. It has a "grain" to it, which plastic wouldn't have, making me think it's bone or ivory. The slots are very high - half of the string is above the nut, as I've read is recommended. I just checked, and I can actually see the strings (the wound ones, anyway) move when I turn the pegs. I don't have the money to do it now, so it'll be a while - maybe it's a weather-induced issue. I'll tune it tonight and see how it is tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Yeah, it was just a "thought/idea." We see so many complaints about tuning issues here, that DO turn out to be bad nut slots, etc. Didn't mean to overstate the obvious, or anything. When you DO tune, does the string "ping," or jerk, at all? You'll still see them move, but if it's not smoothly, it could still be the nut. It strange, it's the cheapest thing on most guitars, and the thing that seems to cause more grief, than anything else, too. ;>b Well, anyway...keep us informed, and we'll want to see photos of your finished "baby," when completed. Cheers, CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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