Epiphone pickup question I DO NOT have the answer to! Help?

[animalfarm]

I stripped down a STAGG brand SG copy so I could buff out

the finish, was pleasantly surprised to see it had EPI pups

as STOCK. My question is:

 

1. The NECK pup has the Epiphone logo stamped on the back,

but no model sticker, just the letter "F" for Front. DC resistance

value is 8.21K Ohms.

2. The BRIDGE pup has epiphone logo stamped on the back,

no model sticker, just the letter "R" for Rear. DC resistance

value is 12.69K Ohms.

 

Of course, not able to tell type of magnet inside...

Any even vague idea as to what these are??? HOTCH (G)?

57CH(G)? etc, etc... I won't list all the different models. I

Know the F and R are to assist the assemblers as to WHERE

to install. Hate to think I would have to loosen strings on all

the gits I have with Epi pups just to unscrew rings and flip

to see IF there is even an F or R on pup...

[Ricochet]

 

Of course' date=' not able to tell type of magnet inside...

Any even vague idea as to what these are??? HOTCH (G)?

57CH(G)?

I Know the F and R are to assist the assemblers as to WHERE

to install.

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I think you're correct.

 

I always thought it was F for front and R for Rear.

But it has been suggested to me the "F" actually stands for "frets". Not 100% sure of the accuracy of the claim tho. What is R supposed to be then?

[teleman55]

I got a pair of ceramic Epi pickups I took out of a Special II. The have nothing on the back. I also have a pair of the Alnico V Classic ones that came out of a Epi Les Paul Standard. They got the logo and the R and F. I'm guessing R=rear, F=front. Anyway the bridge pu "R" is a HOTCH(G) and the neck pu "F" is a 57CH(G). Readings on mine were just about what you got (Mine were a little bit higher but that could be due to method, meter, or normal tolerances. The readings are just about the same as Gibson 498T and 490T (not saying the Epis and Gibsons are the same, just the output).

[teleman55]

I mean't 490R, not 490T.

[animalfarm]

I got a pair of ceramic Epi pickups I took out of a Special II. The have nothing on the back. I also have a pair of the Alnico V Classic ones that came out of a Epi Les Paul Standard. They got the logo and the R and F. I'm guessing R=rear' date=' F=front. Anyway the bridge pu "R" is a HOTCH(G) and the neck pu "F" is a 57CH(G). [b']Readings on[/b] mine were just about what you got (Mine were a little bit higher but that could be due to method, meter, or normal tolerances. The readings are just about the same as Gibson 498T and 490T (not saying the Epis and Gibsons are the same, just the output).

 

Don't forget about TEMPERATURE as affecting readings. I thought about this

over the last few hours and it finally "clicked" in my feeble brain - Lower pup

temps WILL register lower readings, approx. 500 Ohms less. Soooooo, doing

the math, I added 500 Ohms to MY readings (were taken after pups sat in room

that was COLDER than where I usually keep gits).

Neck pup 8.21K + .5K = 8.71K Ohms

Bridge pup 12.69K + .5K = 13.19K Ohms

This now puts them in the range of Alnico Classic and Classic Plus pickups.

I now feel that the pups ARE HOTCH (G) and 57CH (G). Just surprised that an

"off-brand" guitar would use EPI pups as STOCK. When I opened it up. it WAS

all original wiring, but beats the bejezuss out of another git I have that had

BOTH pups reading 16.2K Ohms regardless of neck or bridge. Obviously, have

replaced them with............ EPI pups!!!!!!