zerobox94 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Would it really make a difference in terms of tone and sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 A regular Casino or an IBJL, Elitist, '65 reissue or vintage? It kinda depends on if the particular guit has some issues like high action, intonation problems, etc. A setup usually won't make a huge difference in overall tone since hardware swapouts are not involved, but it can make a major difference in playability and ease of tuning. I suppose if the guit has proper intonation and is easier to play that would result in "good tone", but when discussing tone, it's usually assumed that action and inotnation are adjusted to the player's preference and the real issue is a combination of strings, nut, tuners, pickups, amp, hall acoustics etc. In any case, what's the problem in your view? PS: Action and intonation are relatively easy to adust with a decent guitar tuner and a few common tools... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitmore Willy Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Zerobox, It is a matter of sound but it is also a matter of playability. If you understand that then you want your guitar to be at it's best. If you know nothing about it, pay to have it done once. Watch what is done. Learn to do it yourself. Understand: Guitars change with seasons, weather and humidity. Basic adjustments are not that difficult....But...they should be done. Check this out: http://mysite.verizon.net/jazz.guitar/guitarsetup.htm# Willy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerobox94 Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 A regular Casino or an IBJL' date=' Elitist, '65 reissue or vintage? It kinda depends on if the particular guit has some issues like high action, intonation problems, etc. A setup usually won't make a huge difference in overall tone since hardware swapouts are not involved, but it can make a major difference in playability and ease of tuning. I suppose if the guit has proper intonation and is easier to play that would result in "good tone", but when discussing tone, it's usually assumed that action and inotnation are adjusted to the player's preference and the real issue is a combination of strings, nut, tuners, pickups, amp, hall acoustics etc. In any case, what's the problem in your view? PS: Action and intonation are relatively easy to adust with a decent guitar tuner and a few common tools... [/quote'] Oh, im sorry. I forgot to mention it's a regular Casino with a natural finish. And I just have some tuning problems. Also, the strings buzz more than it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitmore Willy Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Zero, What are your tuning problems and where is it buzzing? There are some very experienced people on this forum. Willy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bynapkinart Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 A Casino/330/Gretsch owner should always expect SOME buzzing...it's just the nature of the hollowbody, they are far more resonant and vibrate more, plain and simple. Play a full hollowbody for a while and your hardware will buzz and rattle eventually. Your strings will buzz more, too...but keep in mind, the nature of the hollowbody is to amplify all that buzzing far beyond that of a solid body. Your SG/LP/Strat/whatever might buzz just as much, but you'll hear that more on a Casino. Literally every single hollowbody owner I've talked to has at least some buzzing...that goes for owners of Casinos (me), ES330's, 335's, Ric 360's, Gretsch 5120's and 22's...everyone. Even the best set up hollow guitar will probably buzz a little depending on your style of playing. That's not to say your guitar is well set up with all the buzzing. First, you should play every note on your guitar...every fret, every string. See if they start buzzing after a certain point on the neck. If they do, take a flat edge and lay it along the fretboard and try to rock it, like a seesaw (I dunno if they call it anything different where you're from). If it rocks, try to loosen the truss rod a quarter turn and see if that helps your buzzing. If it doesn't rock, you probably have a high fret and you should take it to a luthier somewhere. Most of the time, the thing that makes you unsure if you have a good setup or not is your own insecurity. If you learn how to do most things yourself, then you'll come to know your guitar more and you'll be able to tweak it a bit instead of paying out the nose to have someone else do it for you. Plus, you'll be able to fine tune it to your style of playing, something most luthiers cannot do. Oh yeah, tuning...take a mechanical No. 2 pencil and draw in the nut slots for a bit. It helps more than anything I ever do to any guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerobox94 Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 A Casino/330/Gretsch owner should always expect SOME buzzing...it's just the nature of the hollowbody' date=' they are far more resonant and vibrate more, plain and simple. Play a full hollowbody for a while and your hardware will buzz and rattle eventually. Your strings will buzz more, too...but keep in mind, the nature of the hollowbody is to amplify all that buzzing far beyond that of a solid body. Your SG/LP/Strat/whatever might buzz just as much, but you'll hear that more on a Casino. Literally every single hollowbody owner I've talked to has at least some buzzing...that goes for owners of Casinos (me), ES330's, 335's, Ric 360's, Gretsch 5120's and 22's...everyone. Even the best set up hollow guitar will probably buzz a little depending on your style of playing. That's not to say your guitar is well set up with all the buzzing. First, you should play every note on your guitar...every fret, every string. See if they start buzzing after a certain point on the neck. If they do, take a flat edge and lay it along the fretboard and try to rock it, like a seesaw (I dunno if they call it anything different where you're from). If it rocks, try to loosen the truss rod a quarter turn and see if that helps your buzzing. If it doesn't rock, you probably have a high fret and you should take it to a luthier somewhere. Most of the time, the thing that makes you unsure if you have a good setup or not is your own insecurity. If you learn how to do most things yourself, then you'll come to know your guitar more and you'll be able to tweak it a bit instead of paying out the nose to have someone else do it for you. Plus, you'll be able to fine tune it to your style of playing, something most luthiers cannot do. Oh yeah, tuning...take a mechanical No. 2 pencil and draw in the nut slots for a bit. It helps more than anything I ever do to any guitar.[/quote'] Thank you. I'm new at the electric guitar business and you just cleared it up for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bynapkinart Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 No problem! Glad to help. Experiment with bridge height as well if the neck is nice and flat...the ABR-1 is simple to raise and lower and intonate, so you can definitely use that to your advantage to dial in the right height for your playing style. The lower it is, the more prone to buzzing it will be. Playing a low setup with heavy picking or strumming will make it buzz. Most of the time though, only the most anal of tone nuts will call you on it. And when you're playing thru an amp, with a band...99% of the time you can't hear a minimal amount of buzzing. Playing solo or without an amp, you're way more likely to hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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