dbro69 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I am the proud new owner of a Les Paul Studio Pro in Fireburst Candy. Love the guitar!! Amazing looking and sounding axe. My first real LP. Always had Epiphones and recently came into some extra cash and splurged as much as I could. My question for you experts is, does the 2014 Studio Pro have a nitro or poly finish? I like to keep my guitars hanging on the wall next to my tv in the den because not only does it look good there, is easy access to pick up and play and also turns into a conversation topic at times.Isthis safe to keep on a hanger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I am the proud new owner of a Les Paul Studio Pro in Fireburst Candy. Love the guitar!! Amazing looking and sounding axe. My first real LP. Always had Epiphones and recently came into some extra cash and splurged as much as I could. My question for you experts is, does the 2014 Studio Pro have a nitro or poly finish? I like to keep my guitars hanging on the wall next to my tv in the den because not only does it look good there, is easy access to pick up and play and also turns into a conversation topic at times.Isthis safe to keep on a hanger? 100% definitely nitro. Wrap your stand/hanger in cotton. I have a cotton flannel around one of my hangers for that exact reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Welcome here, DBro! 100% definitely nitro. Wrap your stand/hanger in cotton. I have a cotton flannel around one of my hangers for that exact reason. 100% correct, 100% recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesh Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 100% definitely nitro. Wrap your stand/hanger in cotton. I have a cotton flannel around one of my hangers for that exact reason. I've been seeing this topic area pop up on the forums the last few days, and have heard rumours and stories previously. I've got Hercules wall hangers, and one of their floor stands, too. Should I be covering these to avoid damages to nitro finishes? I've had a look at the necks of my guitars and seen no issues with neck finish. 3 of them sit permanently on the stands, while the LP TradPro lives in its case for safety (my pride and joy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Hello! The local guitar shop has Hercules hangers. I asked about them. They never had any issues with them. However, if You visit Hercules` homepage, they are not stating it is safe for nitro finishes. Just in case, I`d cover them. Costs almost nothing to be extra safe. Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesh Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Hello! The local guitar shop has Hercules hangers. I asked about them. They never had any issues with them. However, if You visit Hercules` homepage, they are not stating it is safe for nitro finishes. Just in case, I`d cover them. Costs almost nothing to be extra safe. Cheers... Bence Thanks, Bence! Time to go on eBay and order some flannels! (the'bay is always first point of call...!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I've been seeing this topic area pop up on the forums the last few days, and have heard rumours and stories previously. I've got Hercules wall hangers, and one of their floor stands, too. Should I be covering these to avoid damages to nitro finishes? I've had a look at the necks of my guitars and seen no issues with neck finish. 3 of them sit permanently on the stands, while the LP TradPro lives in its case for safety (my pride and joy). Only for nitro finishes, but yes, even with Hercules stands/hangers. They used to claim nitro safe but they don't now so I guess the got board of paying for refinishes. I use their hangers too, great product but don't assume nitro safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesh Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Only for nitro finishes, but yes, even with Hercules stands/hangers. They used to claim nitro safe but they don't now so I guess the got board of paying for refinishes. I use their hangers too, great product but don't assume nitro safe. You'd think that this would be one of the aspects of a design brief; make product safe for the main types of product finish...? Or is that the common-sense, talking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yodacaster Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Someone should make a stand with the material from inside the Gibson case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euro Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 While Gibson uses "nitro" finishes, the formula has changed over the years, and Gibson has been using more plasticizer in it's nitro. If you see a Gibson from Historic Makeovers that is being stripped of it's original finish, you will see that the finish Gibson uses is not only very thick, but it comes off in sheets. They can call it nitro if they want too, but it isn't what it used to be back in the 1950's, and not what private luthiers use when re-finishing a guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 While Gibson uses "nitro" finishes, the formula has changed over the years, and Gibson has been using more plasticizer in it's nitro. If you see a Gibson from Historic Makeovers that is being stripped of it's original finish, you will see that the finish Gibson uses is not only very thick, but it comes off in sheets. They can call it nitro if they want too, but it isn't what it used to be back in the 1950's, and not what private luthiers use when re-finishing a guitar. Okay. But whatever the formulation, the Gibson "nitro" finish still reacts with certain rubber products, plastics, foams, cleaners, polishes, etc. This is from a comment on a nitro stand damage thread posted 9/15 in the Lounge - http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/115494-guitar-stand-affecting-nitro-finish/page__view__findpost__p__1564661 Not pretty - take caution as recommended above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 While Gibson uses "nitro" finishes, the formula has changed over the years, and Gibson has been using more plasticizer in it's nitro. If you see a Gibson from Historic Makeovers that is being stripped of it's original finish, you will see that the finish Gibson uses is not only very thick, but it comes off in sheets. They can call it nitro if they want too, but it isn't what it used to be back in the 1950's, and not what private luthiers use when re-finishing a guitar. After incidents due to spontaneous combustion, cellulose nitate was either banned like in films - they switched to cellulose acetate, called "Safety Film" -, or had to be within closer degrees of substitution. As a consequence, the material became more brittle. Any pure "safe" cellulose nitrate would show weather checking very soon. To avoid or delay this, there's no other way than using plasticizers, typically alkyd resins which are polyesters on principal. I would be very careful when having a guitar refinished by certain "private" luthiers. You wouldn't want to store your guitar in a fireproof bunker, would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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