DanvillRob
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19 minutes ago, brettryantalley said:
well, they stopped responding to my email once i started asking specific questions, so i'm pretty sure i have my answer.
Probably saved yourself from some heartache.
I love my old Dove...that "Tobacco-Burst" is lovely....I have many Gibson Acoustic Guitars, but I chose this one to take to a TV show taping last week.
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58 minutes ago, brettryantalley said:
hah! y'all are great. i definitely don't make purchases off of craigslist unless i get to see it, play it, etc. i knew there was a chance it wasn't legit, but the label was confusing enough for me to ask the question here. appreciate everyone's responses. we'll see how they respond, but i'm guessing from what i've seen here....it ain't real or worth it.
Just so you know, the label looks legit to me, (looks like the label in my Dove).
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My eyes suck....but I think the SN on this guitar is 72149135. (the 135th guitar made on August 2, 1979 in Kalamazoo).
The SN on my '79 Dove is 72189005, (5th guitar built on August 6, 1979 in Kalamazoo).
They must have worked out the bugs on this guitar before they built mine!
I've had mine since 1980 or 1981. Was not new, but I think my wife paid like $1200 for it then.
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I happen to own a '79 Dove...just that color.
I suspect it's authentic.... the back is colored just like mine and is two pieces.
The pickguard does look sketchy.
Since it's a "second" it's not worth $1200.00....it it were a "first" it might be.
Trouble with a "second" is you don't know why it wasn't good enough when it was made..... it could be playability.
A scar somewhere or the replaced pickguard don't bother me....but the "Second" stamp sure does.....I'd get the price down or keep looking.
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3 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said:
You want mistakes left in, just listen to any full live Grateful Dead concert. They flub lyrics, they flub notes, but they’re The Dead. Love em or hate em.
I always noticed that about them....I suspect if they were "polished" they'd be a different band!
I have a story about The Dead. Years ago, I went to a party at a friend's house in San Jose. There was a girl there who was visiting his next door neighbor. After some "adult beverages" I asked her out on a date for the next night. When I got there to pick her up, I found her to be UGLY! I didn't want to be seen with her by anyone I knew, so instead of driving back to The East Bay where I hung out, we drove up the peninsula. We passed a strip mall with a bar that had a sign outside that said "LIVE MUSIC". So we went in there. The Dead were playing there.... it must have been a tune-up for a tour or something....there were only like 10 people in the whole bar! That's the night I noticed Jerry Garcia was missing the middle finger on his right hand 'cause we sat like 10 feet from the stage.
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27 minutes ago, Murph said:
A sure case of the "right hand man" being the heavy hauler.
Buck needed a partner. Whether it was Don, or Roy, or even Dwight. He did best with a partner.
Many sidemen are underrated.... I always thought Maury Muehleisen was totally underrated, (Jim Croce) and of course, David Lindley, (Jackson Browne).
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32 minutes ago, Murph said:
The live music stuff was great. Some of the best pickers of the day, and they filmed fast and would leave in mistakes and finger "slips".
Humility was alive and well, as was a sense of humor back in those days.
Everybody is twisted too tight nowadays....
Boy is that right! Music today is too "produced".....nothing better than a singer and guitar or singer and piano.
Some singers I didn't think much of until I heard them just 'play', e.g. Jackson Browne, Kid Rock or Pink.
And I could tell the difference in Buck Owens music once Don Rich was killed. Never the same.
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One of the songs I performed at his memorial:
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1 hour ago, Murph said:
The first lady of the banjo and the youngest daughter of "Pops" Stoneman, she was also the "ironing board lady" on Hee Haw.
The entire family were overdosed in talent, with Scotty being the mad fiddler and Donna, one of the great mandolin players, the last survivor.
Bluegrass royalty, indeed.
Oh, this is sad..... Roni was a talented banjo picker....and a funny lady.
I used to catch Hee Haw from time to time when it was on TV.....but.... a few years ago, RFD-TV played all the episodes in order, so I got to see them all!
Jokes were corny, the music was fantastic.
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2 hours ago, PrairieDog said:
Nah, yours is hard too. The sting of losing something one cares about is the same, no matter the circumstances. I have a lot of horror stories, I don’t share them often, but when I do, I try to make clear grief/pain is not a competition, it is all just a shared path.
Nice to have those pianos, I hope your son comes to cherishes them both. Like guitars, no two are really the same.
Yes, you’re right…..instruments are very personal, and have value beyond what they sell for.
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7 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said:
We have a Steinway Grand Piano in the lobby of the theater I work at (The Carolina Opry). I heard ages ago someone possibly spilled a drink in it, and now it is basically a place for the customers to use as a coaster for their drinks. I have seen the serial numbers and can't figure out how old or new it is. It must be way to much to restore or why would you not do it to a piano of that stature.
There are data bases for determining the age of pianos based on the serial number....that's how I found out my of Carl Ronisch was made in 1871.
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21 minutes ago, PrairieDog said:
Not pining for a guitar but a piano…
When I was a kid, my grandmother bequeathed her 19th century Steinway parlor-grand piano to me. I was a bit of a promising prodigy, and she was my main encouragement.
At first it was at my house, but I couldn’t practice when my mom was around, since she found the needed repetition annoying, and she finally had it moved to my dad’s house until I had a place I could move it into.
When the time came, and I had bought a house specifically because it had space to keep it in, he kept finding excuses to keep it at his house. Usually some music program graduate student was living with them who needed to use it. I was annoyed, but in the interest of keeping the rocky peace, I just figured it would get to me at some point. Even if it was through the will.
To my horror and outrage, when he was closing up the house, he announced he was giving my piano to a graduate student he particularly liked, screaming at me in a bizarre, uncharacteristic outburst of rage, “You don’t DESERVE the piano!” I was floored, stunned.
It turned out all these years he had been bogarting it, I had been the brunt of a cruel and almost Shakespearean betrayal by another party, without my father ever approaching me, or asking me if any of it were true. He just believed outright lies, and nothing I could say now dissuaded him from his conviction I turned out to be utterly worthless.
The graduate student didn’t even want it. She wasn’t even a piano major, and had no place for it and would have to pay to store it. She understood what a blow this was to me. She begged me in a panic to talk him out of it. He would have none of it.
He always had some bug up his butt about me, nothing I did met his approval, and it turned out this was the ultimate and cruelest dig he could deliver. He even made sure through a ruse that I happened to be there when the movers came to take it away to put it in her storage. The
A decade or so later, I was looking into buying it back from the grad student, but it turned out she had gutted the beautiful old thing and put the “modern” heavy style keys in it. Once I heard that, I was resigned, it was never going to be “my” piano again.
OMG! That's the most outrageous and horrendous story I've ever heard!
Makes my story very tame in comparison!
That's, of course, one of the problems with pianos...many (most) people have no place for them.
I have 2 pianos in my house.... my old 1871 Carl Ronisch and my 1971 Schafer & Sons Baby Grand.... pretty sure my son will keep the old antique piano, but he might sell off the baby grand.... too bad.... it's been sitting in the same room for 30 years....
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Just now, Sgt. Pepper said:
Haven't been to Reno since about 2008.
We used to show dogs there sometimes...and my brother would drive over to where we were (for a free meal).
He has a couple of friends in Auburn....he'll go there every once in a blue moon.
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12 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said:
Brothers who needs 'em.
My brother is a total hermit..... has some land outside Reno.... can't get him to leave for any reason.
I'm going to take the motor home up there later this year for a few days...haven't seen him since my mother died, (2008).
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46 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said:
Do you not remember the saying from all branches of the military - It takes a college education to break it, and a high school education to fix it.
Does Space Force have a boot camp if if so where is it at, the Moon?
Now back to guitars you pine for that got away.
Only guitar I pine for is my old Jag.... gave it to my brother over 50 years ago.....told him I'd buy it back maybe 10 years ago....he said he sold it already.....sumb!tch!
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12 hours ago, rbpicker said:
My first, a new 62 J45 cherry sunburst. I bought it new and later went into the Air Force. Stationed at Eglin AFB, Florida. Married with a young wife and not making much money so I took it to a pawn shop and the guy paid me $60 US dollars for it. He saw me coming, but that bought some baloney and rice for a few weeks back then.
Live and learn is the moral of that story.
Roger
Isn't it a shame that our gubment pays its soldiers so little they often need to go on welfare to make ends meet?
Maybe if they started drafting illegals into the service...
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4 minutes ago, Phil OKeefe said:
The Doves In Flight is a dream guitar for me. I hope to have one someday!
My only grandson is bound to wind up with a lot of my guitars eventually. He won't be three until July, and he already has his own drum kit (a Ludwig Questlove Pocket Kit), and still wants to play on my drum kit whenever he comes over to visit. He's also fascinated by my guitars, keyboards, and anything else that makes noise. Considering all the people in his family who are musicians (his great-grandfather was a guitarist, his mom is a session singer, his grandmother/my wife is a former RCA artist, and I'm a recording engineer and multi-instrumentalist), he's got it in his blood.
Well, good luck with that…..I wanted my son to play, but he never was interested, even though his dad (me) played all his life, his uncles, grandfather and several friends all played. His kids, (my grandkids) are only 6, 4 and 2. I’m hoping one or all of them play.
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I have never got rid of any of my Gibsons.... still have my first one which I got over 50 years ago.
It's special to me because it went through my "lean years" (if you know what I mean) 1969 Jubilee.
My 1979 Dove is special because my beautiful wife scraped the money to buy it for me as a present when we "...didn't have a window to throw it out of".
The 2006 Doves In Flight is the best sounding guitar I ever owned....got it specifically for my first grandkid.
Got my 2011 Hummingbird KOA for my first granddaughter....I sure hope she plays!
The 2010 Hummingbird 12-String I got from a Forum member....it's such a wonderful player, I've grown to love it....it'll go to my second grandson.
And the 1975 J-50 was given to me by my staff when I retired.... it was my practice guitar until bursitis forced me to return to the Jubilee, (smaller body).
I don't plan to ever get rid of one of them....nor do I plan to acquire another one.
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15 hours ago, Notes_Norton said:
I'm lucky. I GET to play for an audience from 3 to 6 days a week.
What a great way to make a living. Mostly 3 hour gigs, sometimes 4, doing what I love to do, with my best friend/lover/wife, getting applause every 3 to 5 minutes, and feeling the love from the crowd.I met the future Mrs. Notes when she was in a different band. She plays guitar, synth and is a fantastic singer (I'm just a decent singer). When our bands broke up, we found ourselves in the same 5 piece. When we had personnel problems with that, we decided to go duo. Playing music is our second favorite thing to do.
We don't plan on retiring, at least as long as we can pull a crowd.
It's very few people who manage to make a living doing something they love. You're a lucky man.
I did play for an audience yesterday....was a memorial for a concert promoter back in the 60's....was a heck of a crowd....a lot of guys I know from 50 years ago!
Now I'm back to learning a Blaze Foley song here in my kitchen.....life is good!
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1 hour ago, Notes_Norton said:
If I live to be 200 years old, I'm sure there will be new things about music for me to learn.
Since I make our own backing tracks, I have to learn each part and practice them until they are good enough for me to record. It's a lot easier to just buy karaoke tracks, but I can put the songs in our key, and in our arrangement.Notes ♫
Norton, that's right.... we can all live to 200 and play every day and STILL barely scratch the surface of what music there is.....and that's a good thing!
I have used karaoka backing tracks at times....when there's a part of the song I just can't duplicate....I just did "C'est La Vie" (Chuck Berry) with a backing track...but when I did "We Gotta Get Out Of The Place", I did the bass part and the keyboard part and (of course) the guitar part.
But.... I don't have to play then for an audience!
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Since retirement, I play for several hours every day, (while the wife sleeps).
I get up at 4:30....shower.... take out the dogs..... check my email and log in here.....then practice whatever song I'm working on.
Practicing slightly more right now because I have to perform at a memorial service tomorrow...and I can't slide too much as the audience will be all the people from the San Francisco Music Scene. They'll KNOW each time I slip up.
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A prominent Bay Area dance promoter from the 60's & 70's passed away recently, and his service is this Sunday.
I've been asked to perform a couple of songs there.
Another friend sent me this link to something he posted.
Tom Brown booked many gigs back then....was in competition with Bill Quarry, but unlike Quarry's relationship with Bill Graham, Quarry and Tom remained friends.
I was looking for the photo of me with Bill Quarry in front of where the Rollerena was, and he sent me this:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.123636166059177&type=3
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13 hours ago, Retired said:
Terrible isn't it?
Yes.... and I wasn't old at the time!
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15 minutes ago, Retired said:
You know what irritated me the most with just WAY Too DARN LOUD? Rock and Roll concerts we've been to over all the years. We have been to hundreds of them. Many were pleasant to go to and we enjoyed them very much. I remember some big names we saw, Blues, Rock N Roll, Country, so on. And they come out and are so darn fricken' loud That we had to leave. Sometimes I removed my hearing aids and shoved roll up ear plugs down to my ear drums so I could listen. Even then they were way too loud. What does that do to the Audience? Nothing, those go down as terrible bands and many refuse to go to them again. You don't have to play at the top loudest settings to be heard folks. Plus you ruin your hearing as well. The Eagles have been pleasant to go to and we seen them I think 4 or 5 times now. We are going to see them again tonight. One Blues band we saw had a warm up band first. Muddy Waters or something like that. He was fine but not the warm up band. He was an excellent guitarist but way too darn loud. I hated every minute.
I've been to many concerts too....probably the loudest was Hank Williams, Jr.
It was so loud it was uncomfortable to sit in the audience....you sure as heck couldn't talk to the person next to you.
A Gibson Tragedy
in Gibson Acoustic
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I like it..... if it played good, I'd keep it as it is ('fix' the cracks is all)....it's had a tough life.... home repairs by a working musician who couldn't afford the luxury of a luthier.
$8K? No feckin' way!