E-minor7
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4 hours ago, gearbasher said:
I had a Guild JF-55 that sounded great. It had a very deep warm sound and was a real cannon. Bridge started to lift. I had it repaired. It lost all it's volume and a lot of the low end. Sold.
Even weirder - things are simply upside down where you live.
The broken guitar got fixed and lost value, was then sold, , , only to be replaced by broken twin, which is broken too and must stay that way to be a keeper.
I'm sure you have both feet solidly planted on the ceiling right now - and enjoyed a splendid breakfast this evening. .
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6 hours ago, Larsongs said:
What did you choose & why?
For readers without knowledge of these woods it's obviously a good starter to count Gumbinos excellent 4-headed test in here.
I like RBSinTo have the 3 sorts spread over Gs and Ms and enjoy them all, , , not least the possibility to circulate a lot.
1 hour ago, RBSinTo said:I've got one of each.
Martin D-28, Gibson j-45, and Guild GAD jf-30.
The Martin sounds like an orchestra, the Gibson like a Quartet, and the Guild like the Quartet amplified.
` Wowww ´
Does the amped quartet play in mono ?
1 hour ago, PrairieDog said:I put it back once more, went home, then started second guessing myself after reading a bunch of posts here about how when you meet a guitar you really like grab it if you can, since you can’t guarantee the next one will sound the same, and caught a bad case of FOMO.
I went back a couple of days later and yeah, it’s gonna be the one that got away.
Euuuuchhh. .
6 hours ago, gearbasher said:I do have a Guild D-55 (rosewood). I consider it the best sounding guitar I've ever owned. I had a 1980 one that I loved. When it needed a re-fret, I sold it. I bought and sold 3 more, until I found this one. Unfortunately, the bridge is lifting (I've seen a lot of Guilds with lifting bridges--some were new on the showroom floor) and I'm afraid that when I have it repaired the guitar won't sound the same.
Weird dilemma there - "if it's broken don't fix it". I'd like to know how that case develops. .
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So far, so good - eeehh, was the gauge ever mentioned. .
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Finally got laid back enough to lean forward into this impressing A-B-C-D. Tried to imagine bein' a newbie with no real knowledge of and 1 to 1 experience with these guitars. And must say they all blew my hair back, , , though the cans did their best to keep things in place. I have a very soft spot for recorded Doves - it was not hardened here. And I think it's quite mesmerizing to realize how close yet different the Dove and the Hummingbird are. In real life as in this context, which shows exactly that doubleness with impressing precision. Researchers can take a lot out of these films. They are a starters guide and the veterans confirmation.
The Dove is richer than the Bird, , , more modest than the Jumbo. If Kalamazoo had an ambition to invent the sweet spot between those 2, it's fair to say they nailed it. To my ears the J-45 comes rolling in a path of its own. Yes, you hear the Gibson-dna, but the old slope shape simply adds a raw more earthy flavour, , , which at the same time offers mellowness. It's not the first time I claim the 45 is a rough creature with a gentle poetic soul, where the H-bird is a light, elegant and graceful flyer with a mean snappy bite under its wing. The 200 doesn't care for those terms - it holds other ambitions which have to do with rising above. And yes it IS huge and very convincing, , , the intriguing thing however, is that it meets the Dove up there every time. The Dove that never touches down. Ever seen one with muddy claws - NO ! cause it just never landed such places. The 45 did, , , , when it elegantly jumped from the farm fence. But it didn't seem to bother much. "I go where the others won't come, , , and can't", it stated so very self aware. Ha, giggled the Hummingbird chasing a butterfly over the grass while the Jumbo blew too loud a trunk to notice. But the Dove, , , , the Dove flew in its secret sphere thinking - "Let them hum and do their things, I'll do mine. People who want what I got will find me in time, , , , and space. . . "
Apart from that I still think the J-200 is the most neutral of the 4. I'm somehow unable to get a grasp. Always remembered the look so vividly, but not the voice. .
And sure, the Dove can drip too much rancid sirup and fade greasy-dead.
Btw. was it a 23 years old Young tune there in the middle of the first half.
And let's not overlook they all were tuned 1 step down.
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On 9/29/2023 at 1:12 PM, Murph said:
That's 20 years of playing it every day.
Surgical sanding?
Give me a break.
Sure - as long as it doesn't hurt your neck, , , eeeh the break.
I sand some guitars exactly there and have the same marks - but never on the oldies.
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Oooohh, this is great news. 4 aces in serious A-B-C-D. I really look forward to drill in - will not happen now. Too tired to offer them focused justice and have tasks tomorrow nite.
Perhaps I'll find a gab before leaving. Can't wait. . .
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Here's the Songmaker - something third, isn't it. Sounds pretty good - but played even better, , , , with 1 finger under band-aid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=FppaqaILY5Y
I kind of like it. . .
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11 minutes ago, BluesKing777 said:
I have my pawn shop find 2006 Cherry Burst that I picked up a number of years ago and recently had repaired.
Didn't this Dove have some sort of tattoo. . .
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8 hours ago, EuroAussie said:
Owned the cut away version. Sold it. Sound it like Gibson meets Taylor.
But i also realised I dont like rosewood backed Gibson acoustics.The 2 above sound very neutral to me. Like some anonymous clerk in the midsts of circus-people, show-folks, night-clubbers and flamboyant eccentric artists. .
Yet I'd like to try one in reality - a Songwriter vs a Songbird could be fun. Also though the body shape and head turn me off. Too wide hips under too narrow shoulders.
Have to add something tells me they might surprise positively. Ferguson wasn't born the week before materializing this vision.
22 minutes ago, Larsongs said:It seems most who buy Gibson Acoustics buy them for Mahogany Back & Sides.. Gibson Rosewood & Maple back & Sides Guitars are Outliers…
Count rose first - quite a lot have lusted for Jumbos & Doves over the years. For reasons better than good.
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15 minutes ago, Murph said:
Don't confuse me with facts, my mind's made up...
☺️ , , , , can we hear your probably qualified thoughts. .
Sometimes asleep >< Always awake ?
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On 9/20/2023 at 10:51 AM, 62burst said:
Yes, gotta expect Emin7 to answer an NGD with a request for a sight &/or sound. ; ) .
Yes, yes, yes, , , a guitar board without any sounds is not only mute - it's deaf !. .
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35 minutes ago, jt said:
Yup. Ain't possible. But our ears can forget how a guitar sounds. I've experienced this many times.
Yet I keep experiencing the opposite. Also today with the 1953 J-45. However I'm aware that human ears are remarkably keen to adapt to new sounds or let's say sound-nuances. Just think about how we so very easily accept the next record we put on as 'representing 100' - also though the one we replace technically had a much higher hi-fi-level.
That said I find hard to believe that the wood, which we make vibrate, isn't able to warm up and be more flexible/vibrant when being kept in motion.
You have probably heard both acknowledged musicians and luthiers talk about wooden instruments bein' better the more playing they get. Neil Young sings about it, but ok he's a romantic - some luthiers claim they can hear if a guitar was treated gently or roughly, , , and fx was owned by a person who preferred the key of D.
My own feeling (I'm no scientist) tells it's a mix. Adjusting ears combined with glued together warmed up wood. Actually what I tried to express in post #3. "The trick is to patiently facilitate the rendezvous between your hearing and the warmer'n'warmer guitar."
But JT, let's hear more about everything you find out. The entire acoustic universe is curiously waiting, , , and probably will remain divided no matter how any dice falls.
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17 minutes ago, jt said:
Think of the physics of the proposition that guitars go to sleep and then wake up when played. Guitars are composed of long-dead pieces of wood (or never alive scraps of carbon fiber). Playing them cannot change them. Really.
I'm currently at work on a book about the art and science of the guitar, which will contain a chapter on the physics of the guitar (and chapters on history, the neurology of hearing, the psychology of hearing, acoustics, etc.): The Acoustic Guitar: Inside the World’s Most Popular Musical Instrument (Oxford University Press, 2024). I'll address the notion of inanimate objects falling asleep and then waking up.
So are you saying an acoustic guitar can't fall to sleep or even go dead when not bein' played. I just need to be sure.
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7 hours ago, zombywoof said:
I get it that the conventional wisdom is a few "gems" snuck out of the factory. And if you read enough forum its seems that 9 out of 10 people who own Gibsons built in the 1970s have found one. I probably should revisit these instruments though. I recall having a terrible opinion of those 1960s Fender acoustics with the broomstick brace. But about a decade or so back I got my hands on one and also recall thinking it was not near as bad sounding as I remembered it to be.
Actually played 2 this spring. They hang in the same shop and were just as expected - which (if one should talk real straight) means dull, , , or strange guitars. Of course they were sleeping and may reach a level after some caressing. Add to that a good dose of Kalamazoo-placebo. I truly believe the people you talk about feel what they say and wish them the best. Some of them simply have that particular taste, , , but others never got the opportunity to set the perspective by comparing with the light-weights.
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Congrats on this clazzic maple-winger. Doves are amazing, , , , but even more so on tape. Try it and send us all the result. Have fun.
P.S. - low action won't make it fly lower
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1 hour ago, Silversurfer said:
I have an SJ Deluxe from 1974. As much as it has the double bracing and gigantic bridge plate, it’s not muffled or dead sounding. It’s actually louder than my 2020 J-45. I’m convinced that part of the reason it sounds good is because of how the wood has aged. Not all the Norlin era acoustics were duds.
Stories like this are worth a lot - like most pattern-breakers they add nuance. Would be good to hear that old Deluxe.
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8 hours ago, cunningham26 said:
em7's looks like something in between, and if it sounds good, it sounds good. Gibson always keeps you guessing!
my 68:
This 45 is a beaut - but again something completely different. We still need to see the back braces of the sunburst square, Bozz. Well, maybe they don't exist.
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"I never realized guitars go to sleep!?"
Just wait till you get insight into their dreams. .
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5 hours ago, jellyrohl said:
Has anyone tried using nitros lacquer on a hummingbird pickguard to keep the design from being rubbed off or damaged? Is there a reason Gibson doesn’t do this already with their painted pickguards?
It’s pretty easy to get good lacquer, and I have access to the spray equipment one would need to create a fine and consistent spray, as opposed to using an aerosol can. Even with a fine and consistent spray, would you still need to sand the lacquer smooth? (Aerosol canned lacquer often requires sanding from what I’ve read)
I realize this is sort of a vanity thing, but I have my hummingbird arriving tomorrow and I’d like to keep the bird design as long as possible. It’s a very visually appealing aspect of the guitar to me.
Thank you!
Have to say I just let the flora-fauna be. A natural fade looks good to me (rhyme there).
Here's a 7 year old 13 pages long thread that touches a bit of everything - including the German panzer paint myth in post 11.
1 hour ago, 62burst said:Rumor has it that when designing the original pick guard, Hartford Snyder had spec'ed for Panzer paint to be used for coloring his design, but that just might be an acoustic urban legend. Lacquer is quite fickle- you can clean the pickguard glue off of a guitar's top when replacing the 'guard, but I wouldn't risk it not attacking the paint on modern Hummingbird graphics. I also wanted to keep fingers from wearing off the design, so I purchased some clear static cling pickguard material off of eBay. Worked fine. 'Wasn't too critical about getting the air bubbles out. . . as a matter of fact, I kinda liked the mosaic pattern that resulted. I lifted the clear film after a few months to make sure it wasn't attacking the paint. All good. It wasn't pulled off until I sold the guitar a few years later- no damage, and the new owner got a pristine-looking pickguard on their new 'Bird.
Do you have pictures of this 'film', Burst. .
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17 hours ago, Bozz said:
Sounds very nice. Thanks for sharing the sound clip.
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It sounds alright, especially for specific tasks - but one certainly hears the bulky braces. Opposed to the picture this was a ceramic saddle insert.
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And this is how it sounds -
- half a step down
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32 minutes ago, Bozz said:
Thanks for the pic, Dave. Yours doesn't look over built at all. For some reason I thought they had moved to heavier bracing and a larger plywood bridge plate by 1968.
Can anyone explain serial numbers from 1968? I see some in the 500,000 - 520 ,000 range, and others in the 900,000's. Is this just Gibson being Gibson? Or is there SN sequencing that makes sense?
Wait a minute - 1968 was the year of transit so you have to double check. Your back braces can't be seen, but they'll tell us. Can you provide a picture.
Here mine from 68 or 9 - it's heavier than Dave F's
which btw. is a slope, isn't it. .
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36 minutes ago, cody78 said:
Going back to the Rolling Stones, I thought the new song Angry was pretty good. Has references to their classic sound. I enjoyed it.
So did I ^ hope the rest of the record keeps level
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Congrats - very hot guitars.
Are you sure the nut width is narrower ? 🧐
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I never realized guitars go to sleep!?
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Just wonder how your daughter took it. .