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That is surprising of all the thousands of Epiphone owners on this site only two other people Jerrymac who once owned one, and Musikron who has one.
So few peopled who own or have owned, a "Epiphone by Gibson" headstock Sheraton.
I have seen one on e-bay, Wonder how many of these were made.
Would like to get a list of owners just to try and sort the riddle of these serials.
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Jerrymac wrote:
The problem is most of the stickers with the serial #s have been removed, like the one I had years ago. But yes, that's what the stickers looked like, and the early number were random.Thanks JM
Just hoping there might be a few out there that still have the serial sticker to see if there is any rhyme or reason to those 8 digits.
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Hi leicester35
It will cost me £230 and I quite like the weather beaten look and some forum members have let it be know the "Epiphone by Gibson" are often quite well put together.
It has taken a few knocks over the past 23 years, but as long as it is in good playing order. I think it has "character" it will do me fine.
I am hoping to have it as my "ready to hand" guitar. Some would say "beater" but feels a bit luxurious talking about a Sheraton that way.
But that is what it is for.
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So my questions to all owners of "Epiphone by Gibson" headstock Sheratons..
Do your serial stickers look like the one in the photo below?
Do you have an 8 digit serial?
The TRC is plain black on the one I am buying did they come like that?
Last question which I suspect
should this mean
My guitar was made in
Korea
January c.1987
Production Number: 05418
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I thought there were quite a few owners of these Samick built Epiphone Sheratons with the
headstock on this site.
I was wrong.
We have 6,677 registered forum members and have had 5,389 visits to this thread.
Astounding........still only have 9 proven owners of "Epiphone by Gibson" Sheratons on this forum.
1986 E-by-G's
NaturalScience2112 (E-by-G Sheraton owners club # 2 (tobacco, sn:6066698))
Musikron (E-by-G Sheraton owners club # 1 (natural, sn:6094580))
1987 E-by-G's
JoeSamick (E-by-G Sheraton owners club # 3 (tobacco, sn:70105418))
StevieD (E-by-G Sheraton owners club # 8 (tobacco, sn:71107775))
Albannach (E-by-G Sheraton owners club # 6 (tobacco, sn:71108446))
1988 E-by-G's
Toredown (E-by-G Sheraton owners club # 5 (tobacco, sn:80202658))
hilleri(2) (E-by-G Sheraton owners club # 9 (natural, sn:880603292)
slawek (E-by-G Sheraton owners club # 4 (tobacco, sn:880802010))
missing serial therefore 1986 to 1988 E-by-G's
hilleri (E-by-G Sheraton owners club # 7 (natural (yellowed), sn:XXXXXXXX)...probably 1988
who own "Epiphone by Gibson" Sheratons (samick build 1986-1988) with the
Headstock
Please if anyone else knows of anyone else who owns one, or sees one for sale, drop me a line.
to be included in this list we need photographs of your guitar especially the headstock back and front
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Thanks for confirming what I always knew: that fake Epi makers do stamp "Epiphone" on the pickups.
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Don't they look just so damn cool!!??
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it's a giant leaf spring. The more you push down the more resistance you get. it's much more "solid" than any other type of tremolo system.
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Here, for example, is a 1998 EC BKE-30:
You'll note the lack of bookmatched halves, and the discernible arch in the back, attesting to the use of a laminated, pressed back.
Nice stage guitar though.
Fred
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I am trying to work out if the Blues King Electro has solid back and sides and did it just come in maple with spruce top. Anybody enlighten me?
The initial production of the Blues King Electro was produced with laminated maple back, produced in Nashville and shipped to Bozeman for production.
Later on, I believe possibly coinciding with the period when they rebadged the model the J-185EC (?), the backs that they used became solid maple. I think that change might have been about 1998-9. That's just a guess, though.
(Hopefully this isn't a fifth grade Music question on which a lot of money is riding....)
Fred
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Oh, yeahhh. I like it. Looks like a very near-post war LG-1 or LG-2. Nice!
Also, love the gloobery messy glue bits inside old Gibsons, because the "untidy" interiors are SO not right with today's guitar aficionados!
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Those were "the J-45" for a few years from Bozeman, about 1994-5, IIRC.
They had silkscreened Block logo, and the Banner, also silkscreen. The J-30 of that time was similarly adorned, although I can't remember if they called them "Western" per se. They came both natural and sunburst. I still have the promo folders from the dealer with those two models on 'em.
Fred
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I have a 2007 CJ165 Vintage Burst that does have the serial number stamped on the back of the neck. As someone already mentioned' date=' I'm sure Gibson in the spirit of being "True Vintage" left the number off the neck like they did way back in the day. I'm hoping someday soon to order a Gibson True Vintage 185 in vintage burst to go with my favorite guitar of all time. My J165, just incredible tone. It beat out several Martins, a few Taylors, and one Lowden. [/quote']
That makes sense, being as the J-165 has no "vintage" model that it is based upon. It was only introduced in 2006, IIRC.
That it sports a "vintage" sunburst finish, of course, has nothing to do with any "vintage" connection, other than it's the Best Finish On Earth to get a guitar in!!
Fred
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It used to be that Gibson would, as a matter of routine, stamp ser #s in the back of the headstock. I believe that the practice of NOT stamping the ser #s in the back of the headstock was in homage to the vintage instruments, which also did not have serial numbers stamped on the headstock.
Typically, in the original vintage-year Gibsons, the numbers (FON or serial) were stamped in ink and/or handwritten on the neck block and/or on the label (if there was a label).
So, the lack of a serial number stamped into the headstock back face would simply be a "truer" aesthetic, in terms of the originals.
Fred
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My parents bought a used Epiphone FT-140 for me for Christmas 16 years ago (my first guitar) and as I was changing the strings tonight' date=' the nut broke to reveal wood that looked significantly older than 16 years. So...now I'm interested. I've gleaned some information about this model, but I'm looking for some specifics (construction, average price new, how many were sold, other players' experience with them, etc).
This is the guitar I cut my teeth on, and consequently is the standard that I measure everything against. It's been a real trooper and has really good tone...I even felt a bit guilty when I purchased my Martin D-28...kind of like I was cheating on the Epi...
Anyway - any information the forum could pass along would be greatly appreciated....[/quote']
The FT-140 was introduced in 1979 and was part of the third and final wave of Matsumoku(Aria)-made Japanese Epiphones along with the Presentation and Nova lines and it stuck around for a couple of years until about 1981 or so...in 1983 all of the Japanese-made Epiphones with the exception of the up-market set-neck arch top line were discontinued with new product lines moved to Samick in Korea for production. The Matsumoku set neck arch top line moved to Korea and Samick in 1986. I'm not familiar with that particular model but for the most part these acoustics were bolt-on neck-ed (though some have a heeled neck that appears to be a set neck but is actually a bolt-on), completely laminated-bodied acoustics that maybe weren't the best acoustics ever made but weren't the worst either. I think it needs to be understood that at the time Japanese guitars ran the entire spectrum from very impressive (the early Tokai Love Rocks and Springy Sounds and Burney Les Pauls) to quite respectable (The set neck Epiphone arch tops from Matsumoku) to the quite viable and utilitarian (these Epiphones and other Japanese lines such as the red label Nippon Gakki Yamahas and Ibanez) to complete crap (the dozens of cheap brands such as Checkmate and Teisco del Ray). As such, this line was a viable and sound choice for a mid-level hobbyist instrument . What I have a slight problem with is that often these instruments are offered for ridiculously high amounts on places such as E Bay because there's a false perception that old equates to valuable and while there were some exceptional Japanese guitars from this era the majority including these Epiphones were at more the middle of that spectrum. Even though I own three of these instruments, I don't believe they're worth more than perhaps $200 when beyond that figure very good acoustic guitars with true set necks and a minimum of a solid wood top can be had. If you already own the guitar this isn't an issue but to pay beyond a couple hundred for these isn't a wise expenditure. Some of the FT bolt-on neck acoustics were susceptible to neck block issues (the glue drying out) resulting in the collapse of the neck which caused body damage in some cases. This didn't always occur (None of my bolt-on FT's have demonstrated any of these conditions) but problem does seem to be somewhat common. If you like the guitar, and the guitar is playable and has personal history then nothing else matters and that guitar is in deed worth as much as any guitar might be worth to you. Good luck.
...and Al's your uncle.
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Thanks for your reply - but I'm a little confused now because here's what Gibson emailed today:
"Dear Mr.' date='
Thank you for your interest in Gibson guitars.
The serial number and pictures you provided should be for a guitar Epiphone Pro made in Nashville US probably in 1988-89.
Find attached doc related guitar specs of this instrument."
No doc attached though, I mailed them and hope they'll attach it.
Here are the pics:
[img']http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj299/MusicMan74/epiphone9.jpg[/img]
So is it Korean or made in or assembled in Nashville USA?
Based upon the serial number and the paper label it's on it's Korean... It's also lacking a digit to be a Gibson format serial number. There was in deed a USA-made Epiphone but those say "Epiphone USA" on the headstock if I recall. I call it: a Korean-made (probably by Samick) Epiphone Strat Thingy from January 1989.
...and Al's your uncle.
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Best pic I could find of it...
MadeinUSA:
Nice 347!! And I know -- they made them afetr the 'offical' end date of 1988-89; I think I've seen some from as late as the mid-1990s.
I may be wrong on this, but from what I recall I think they made a lot of these with the blonde or the black finish, but perhaps a few less in sunburst. I believe I've seen a few in trans cherry too.
The neck on mine is great, very comfy and fast.
Fred
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Hey Brian.
Yeah, I think the earlier 347s came with the brass nut. Mine is all-original, and it's got either a bone or a gen-you-whine plastic nut.
I love the TP-6 tailpiece though -- that is a nice Gibson creation!
Fred
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I own a 1981 ES 347 that I love - the craftsmanship' date=' the features, its a great guitar. Why is there no mention of the ES 347 in the Gibson website? Also - does anyone know how many of these were made? Thanks![/quote']
Don't know about red-heads, 'cause mine's a blonde. I have an '88 347S, and I love it too.
I believe these were "officially" in production from 1978 through 1988, but I know that I have seen a few '89s and even ones from the early 1990s, the latter probably made on a custom basis.
Fred
"Epiphone by Gibson" headstock Sheraton owners club
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6,006 registered members on this forum and this thread has had 162 views and to date the list of owners of Sheratons with the "Epiphone by Gibson" headstock is two people
Musikron
JoeSamick
come on there must be more people out there who have this headstock on their Sherri's