jocal62 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Since I haven't visited for quite a while, I just wanted to show my Casino as it is now before I get the saddles changed into the nylon ones, which my friend gave me. I love my Casino... From this: To this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Oh...I see now, the ring under the switch washer, and a "blue" label! Don't forget the longer tailpiece, too... if/when you order the saddles. Looks good, how does it sound? ;>) CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 also the nylon bridge saddles and gold Klusons tuner keys.... (are they gold???)... and the volume knob index pointers BTW, how in gods green earth did you make/get that blue label ..... you should have placed it away from the f-hole, it sorta takes away from the look of the guitar.... But other than that it looks pretty cool=d> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 also the nylon bridge saddles and gold Klusons tuner keys.... (are they gold???)... and the volume knob index pointers BTW' date=' how in gods green earth did you make/get that blue label ..... you should have placed it away from the f-hole, it sorta takes away from the look of the guitar.... But other than that it looks pretty cool=d> [/quote'] The gold Grovers were on the "Revolution" (natural) version, and not on the '65 sunburst version. So, he doesn't need to change those, really. In fact, when "Revolution" was recorded...even the video/film, and the later "Let It Be" "Rooftop concert" on Savile Row Apple headquarters, John still had the stock Kluson tuners, attached. He did the Grovers, some time later, probably during his Solo (non-Beatle) period. Just a little FYI... CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 didnt know that...... But in regards to the hardware, everything else is the same??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 didnt know that...... But in regards to the hardware' date=' everything else is the same???[/quote'] Yes, aside from the change to "natural" and the Grovers added later, the rest of the hardware, was "stock," from when it was "Sunburst." He did have a replacement (black) volume control knob, for a short time, but it was eventually changed back to the stock gold ones. That may have been an "Art" project (lol), or more likely, just a replacement, until he could find another matching gold one. With John...there's no telling, though. LOL! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchie1281734003 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Jocal. Make sure you are very careful when you move that neck in a further fret, then it gets really complicated!! I`m only kidding, you`ve done a great job there. If you are interested I am in the process of making up another batch of two screw Truss rod covers, using my Lennon 65 one as a template, I will mke these available to forum members when done, what with the originals going for $150.00 USD on ebay!!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Jocal. Make sure you are very careful when you move that neck in a further fret' date=' then it gets really complicated!! [/b']I`m only kidding, you`ve done a great job there. If you are interested I am in the process of making up another batch of two screw Truss rod covers, using my Lennon 65 one as a template, I will mke these available to forum members when done, what with the originals going for $150.00 USD on ebay!!. Yikes!!! I just noticed that one .... you guys are just too good=d> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 "Sweet Loretta Fat, she thought she was a cleaner, but she was frying pan!" JL (Roof top concert) ;>) CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 So let me ask this question Are the Japanese made Casinos made with the neck positioned further into the body?? Or is this just a JL Casino thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 "Sweet Loretta Fat' date=' she thought she was a cleaner, but she was frying pan!" JL (Roof top concert) ;>) CB[/quote'] ....... "And on behalf of the group, I hope we pass the audition." JL (Roof top) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Just looked at the present Casino Elitist... It's essentially the same guitar as the JL models, as far as the hunk of wood goes... or are there notable differences I'm missing??? I did notice the hardware differences, and I'm assuming the pickups are not the Gibson P-90's either.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Original Casino (USA) had neck joints at the 16th Fret, as does the Lennon and Elitist versions. Korean versions have it at the 17th fret. So, originals did have the neck (1 more fret) more into the body. The Elitist and JL Casinos start with the same body. *The headstocks are a bit wider (at the top bout) IF true to specs, on the JL versions. The Lennon versions are made in Japan, but painted and assembled in Tennessee....not sure, if it's Memphis, or Nashville? Maybe Memphis, since the Gibson archtops are generally made there...but, maybe someone else here knows for sure? *In error...see subsequent posting. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchie1281734003 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Original Casino (USA) had neck joints at the 16th Fret' date=' as does the Lennon and Elitist versions.Korean versions have it at the 17th fret. So, originals did have the neck (1 more fret) more into the body. CB[/quote'] The Japanese Matsumoku made ones also had a 16th fret neck/body joint too. But most of the pre-Elite/Elitist Terada (Japan) made Casino`s, just like the Korean`s, had the 17th fret join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 The Elitist and JL Casinos start with the same body. The headstocks are a bit wider (at the top bout) My JL rev measures 3.5" at the top bout (using a pair of calipers)..... IMO I think it would look better proportioned if it measured 3.25" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 My JL rev measures 3.5" at the top bout (using a pair of calipers)..... IMO I think it would look better proportioned if it measured 3.25" Well' date=' the slightly wider headstock upper bout was typical of that era. Riviera's had them, too. I (personally) like the bit wider headstock, that way...but, that's just me! Maybe it's because that's the way my Casino is, being a '66. [i']It[/i] also has the "Epiphone" script a bit further down, from the top of the headstock, as well. Which I was told, they started doing in 1966. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocal62 Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 Oh...I see now' date=' the ring under the switch washer, and a "blue" label! Don't forget the longer tailpiece, too... if/when you order the saddles.Looks good, how does it sound? ;>) CB[/quote'] She's always sounded great, just right for my taste. Right now I still have the stock saddles, but I also have the nylon saddles here so off she will go to my luthier for the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocal62 Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 also the nylon bridge saddles and gold Klusons tuner keys.... (are they gold???)... and the volume knob index pointers BTW' date=' how in gods green earth did you make/get that blue label ..... you should have placed it away from the f-hole, it sorta takes away from the look of the guitar.... But other than that it looks pretty cool=d> [/quote'] I made the blue tag myself, photoshop, using photos and info I've collected over the years. It is an almost exact replica of what John has in his guitar, but only slightly larger, just a hair, to cover the orange oval MIK tag, which is still there. And it is where it should be too, as was in John's guitar too. Anyway, I'm never going to sell this so I'm OK with the mod, gives me the Lennon vibe I wanted. And she just looks gorgeous if you ever see it in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocal62 Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 Jocal. Make sure you are very careful when you move that neck in a further fret' date=' then it gets really complicated!! I`m only kidding, you`ve done a great job there. If you are interested I am in the process of making up another batch of two screw Truss rod covers, using my Lennon 65 one as a template, I will mke these available to forum members when done, what with the originals going for $150.00 USD on ebay!!.[/quote'] Frenchie, very much interested with the 2-screw TRC, that would finish the mods I made, email or pm me if you have it available, and I hope it doesn't cost that much! :-) . I'm not going for the neck move though :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicester35 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 According to the "Canteen" page about Lennon's guitars, [ http://www.thecanteen.com/lennon8.html ] at some point he kept the sunburst finish on the front, but, well, vandalized the back with a can of grey spray paint... I was wondering whether any Lennon Casino completists here are to be found browsing the automotive section at Wal-Mart?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchie1281734003 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Frenchie' date=' very much interested with the 2-screw TRC, that would finish the mods I made, email or pm me if you have it available, and I hope it doesn't cost that much! :-) . I'm not going for the neck move though :-D [/quote'] Jocal 62. I have just made up a batch of 12, and Have used my Lennon 65 TRC as the template, I am now in the process of adding the Epsilon "E" logo to each, which will take me into Wednesday, but all is looking very promising. The Lennon 65 TRC is 2mm longer than my Matsumoku one, consequently the top screw hole is in a slightly different place, so you may have to redrill. When finished I`ll post some pics. You are more than welcome to have one(I`m sending one to JUBAEA as well) there is no charge, just PM me your address, and rave about how good it is when you get it! that`s all I ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocal62 Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 Jocal 62. I have just made up a batch of 12' date=' and Have used my Lennon 65 TRC as the template, I am now in the process of adding the Epsilon "E" logo to each, which will take me into Wednesday, but all is looking very promising. The Lennon 65 TRC is 2mm longer than my Matsumoku one, consequently the top screw hole is in a slightly different place, so you may have to redrill. When finished I`ll post some pics. You are more than welcome to have one(I`m sending one to JUBAEA as well) there is no charge, just PM me your address, and rave about how good it is when you get it! that`s all I ask.[/quote'] Steve, Sent you a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Jocal 62. I have just made up a batch of 12' date=' and Have used my Lennon 65 TRC as the template, I am now in the process of adding the Epsilon "E" logo to each, which will take me into Wednesday, but all is looking very promising. The Lennon 65 TRC is 2mm longer than my Matsumoku one, consequently the top screw hole is in a slightly different place, so you may have to redrill. When finished I`ll post some pics. You are more than welcome to have one(I`m sending one to JUBAEA as well) there is no charge, just PM me your address, and rave about how good it is when you get it! that`s all I ask.[/quote'] Frenchie...I'd be interested in a couple of those 2 hole TRC's myself. (want to keep them around in case my original get's "lifted?") Do you/could you ever make any for the Riviera (White ones, that is)? Anyway... keep me in mind. Also, do you use the period correct elongated "E"? (Just curious) CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchie1281734003 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Frenchie...I'd be interested in a couple of those 2 hole TRC's myself. (want to keep them around in case my original get's "lifted?") Do you/could you ever make any for the Riviera (White ones' date=' that is)? Anyway... keep me in mind. Also, do you use the period correct elongated "E"? (Just curious) CB [/quote'] Charlie, Yes to all your questions, but the Riviera will take a bit longer to do. PM me your address, and I`ll sort you a couple out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 . The Elitist and JL Casinos start with the same body. The headstocks are a bit wider (at the top bout) IF true to specs' date=' on the JL versions. CB[/quote'] I had to cure my curiosity..... Today after work I went to GC, and asked the sales rep if I could measure the bout on their Casino Elitist at the widest point with a pair of calipers (and these are calipers from work that are calibrated). The salesman let me do so.... It measured 3.440".... I went home and my JL REV (with same calipers) measures 3.480.... Only .040 wider... basically the thickness of a medium hard guitar pick:-s Now depending on the tolerance call outs (which I believe is quite generous knowing Epiphone). I would dare state the necks on both the Elitist and JL REV's are made to the same spec. And to be honest they look exactly the same, with exception of the beveled edge area on the JL REV headstock and the Epiphone logo is different... Those were the only striking differences I could point out. But I do have to say, the elitist is a *****in guitar... I played it for about 15 minutes while I was at GC, but it's pricey ($1500). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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