Guest Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 For anyone with the catalogs or who may have or currently owns one of these. The Epiphone Zephyr 312T Thinline circa 1960-62 Question: Did it have the centre block running through like the Sheraton or was it hollow like a Casino, full bodied Zephyrs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2010 Author Share Posted February 9, 2010 Thanks Peter can just about read it....it looks to have a rosewood floating bridge????? This may mean it was hollow bodied? I see the price was $305.......for the Natural.......That would have been a lot of money in those days before Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teegar Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Joe and others, here's info from Gruhn and Carter's ""Gruhn's Guide to Vintage Guitars". The Zephyr (Gibson made of course, after they bought Epiphone) is listed under hollowbody guitars, not semi-hollowbody, that is they do distinguish between the two and clearly label the Zephyr as hollow. True NY or tone spectrum pickups starting in '58, switched to mini-humbuckers by '61 when the tone spectrums ran out. Discontinued by 1964. I assume you've seen this one before, just about makes my heart stop. The DVD, American folk blues festival, is a must have. [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYrVwGxlcFA[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2010 Author Share Posted February 9, 2010 Thanks Teegar.... The Zephyr (Gibson made of course, after they bought Epiphone) is listed under hollowbody guitars, Are you sure that is the Zephyr Thinline..??? Thanks for the vid I have them all downloaded via the firefox youtube download tool add-on This is my favourite, I practice this one every time I pick up a guitar.... [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aq66E7aX2w[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluser12 Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Hey Joe my favorite JL Hooker song as well. What do you think of the version he did with Van Morrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2010 Author Share Posted February 9, 2010 I am a big Morrison fan I have the Morrison and Hooker version but prefer the one above I made an mp3 of it from the video. but I prefer when Van and Hooker done "Don't Look Back" on the pier by the lake have you ever seen that clip.....It is on the album Van Morrison and Friends. Oh man, it gives me goose flesh, I love that little lick Van does when John Lee asks him to "play a little". I have got feeling we have a lot in common bluser12... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teegar Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Are you sure that is the Zephyr Thinline..??? Yep, I'll post the text as it appears in the "Guide": Zephyr: 17 3/8" wide, single rounded cutaway, thinbody, 2 New York pickups, trapeze tailpiece, unbound tortoiseshell celluloid pickguard, slotted-block inlay, metal peghead logo plate, natural or sunburst finish. (No peghead plate by 1960). That's listed under Gibson-made models, Hollowbody - along with the thinline Emperor, the Broadway (full body), the Century (thinbody), Windsor (thinbody), Sorrento (thinbody), Casino (thinbody), Granada (thinbody), Caiola Custom (thinbody), and Howard Roberts (full body). The semi-hollows listed are the Sheraton, Professional, and Riviera. I believe that in the Hobo Blues vid, as I see it on the original DVD, JLH is playing the Zephyr "unplugged", pure acoustic, and the volume and tone he gets would seem to confirm the hollow description. Can't resist, my other favorite from that Folk Blues Festival DVD, Otis Rush with a version of "I Can't Quit You Babe" that makes my hair stand on end, and some killer tone from his early 60's Riviera - [YOUTUBE] [/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluser12 Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I dig Otis, his Cobra Recordings 1956-1958 has been in my car cd player for the last few weeks. In the house its been Magic Sam every night for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2010 Author Share Posted February 9, 2010 Teegar wrote: I believe that in the Hobo Blues vid, as I see it on the original DVD, JLH is playing the Zephyr "unplugged", pure acoustic, and the volume and tone he gets would seem to confirm the hollow description. I can see a cable coming out of that guitar, you only see it very briefly because the shot is cropped to get the graphic of the balcony of the building on the set, I worked in a Television studios for 4 years and in video production for 10 years. I would "think" that from the quality of that recoding that that is going through a mixing desk. But "if" that thinline most probably hollow bodied guitar is generating enough of that "umph" to record at that quality, at that distance, in studio conditions I would be shocked. I would also like to see it replicated using the same equipment.. Either way I have decided, I am starting a little savings account......I will have and play one of those before I kick the bucket......it is my dream guitar........ Great work Teegar...thanks ps..Otis Rush well what can I say......Is that a mighty fine Riviera Otis is playing in that vid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teegar Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 That Zephyr is a great dream guitar, good luck with the savings project. That's how I came to my Sheraton buy, just a little each month, over a couple of years. You saw that thinline Zephyr that went on ebay a month or so ago for about 2200 I think? (I do WAY too much window shopping). In the meantime it's great to have those Sheratons to keep the fingers nimble! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2010 Author Share Posted February 10, 2010 That Zephyr is a great dream guitar' date=' good luck with the savings project. That's how I came to my Sheraton buy, just a little each month, over a couple of years. You saw that thinline Zephyr that went on ebay a month or so ago for about 2200 I think? (I do WAY too much window shopping). In the meantime it's great to have those Sheratons to keep the fingers nimble![/quote'] Thanks Teegar, for the life of me I do not see why Epiphone have never made an Elitist authentic version of this Blues classic. If you are listening upstairs JoeSamick shouting down here for a top quality replica Elitist Epiphone Zephyr 312TN (Natural) please....pretty please...... It is an Iconic guitar......look at my avatar......that is one beautiful Epiphone "classic" guitar........maybe I should start a petition for a limited edition Elitist version.... Teegar, the one on ebay a short while ago was a couple of years earlier than what I would ideally like 1960-61 would be my baby.......Dream on.... JoeSamick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluser12 Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Joe, what can you tell me about the Epiphone Zephyr Blues Deluxe. All I know they do not make them anymore, I do not know anyone who has played one and every time I hear about one for sale it is gone before I can contact the seller. Is it the same one you are talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2010 Author Share Posted February 10, 2010 Hi bluser12 No different guitar, the one this thread is about is the Thinline one with mini humbuckers Hooker has in my avatar...... The Epiphone Zephyr Blues Deluxe is the Epiphone economy version of the Gibson ES-5 which was full bodied hollow with 3 p-90's Take a look at what T-Bone is playing here, love his playing style, looks to be a Gibson ES-5 [YOUTUBE] [/YOUTUBE] T Bone is playing a Gibson ES-5, this is a 1954 model is for sale £5,999.00 + delivery ($9,560 + delivery) This is the Zephyr Blues Deluxe..... The distinctive 3 single coil p-90's.... I am planning to put a set of Mean 90's in my Joe Pass to see if I can get somewhere close to that sort of tone........... the Black Mean 90's I want are currently on back order but I am in no rush. Imagine these black Mean 90's in the Joe Pass in my signature... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluser12 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Thanks for showing me the difference. I have no idea what happened here,man, but I've got Epiphone madness. I bought my Sheraton about a month ago and all my free time has been consumed by this affliction. If I'm not playing my guitar I'm on line reading about Epiphone, or I'm on this forum or in a pawn shop looking for one. I realized this morning my acoustic has not been out of the case since the Epi has been in the house. Am I doomed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2010 Author Share Posted February 11, 2010 Your doomed with those blues....I suggest milk cream and alcohol........as a prescription..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluser12 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 now that you mention it Mr Joe, it is a cold night here, fireplace is burning, "Alone and Acoustic "playing, cognac in my hand.....now where is the wife? Asleep on the sofa! Looks like a quite night for an old bluser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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