badJuJu Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 someone is selling me a 69' epiphone emperor which is really dont know if its legit or not. can't find any info about this guitar. owner said it doesnt have anything on the back of the headstock//(no serial number and who made it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfine Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 The picture's a bit small, so it's kind of hard to tell, but that doesn't look like any '60's Epiphone I've ever seen. '60's Emperors had much wider bodies (18" across the lower bout) and thinner depth like a 335. They also had three mini-humbuckers and Frequensator tailpieces, with Bigsbys or Tremotone tailpieces available by special order (although I've never seen one with a Tremotone). Yours looks like the smaller "Joe Pass" version from the Far East that came out in 1984, although it didn't get the Joe Pass name until '91. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 If it were made in 1969, it would have been made by Gibson in Kalamazoo. This looks like a typical Asian Joe Pass model. Quick identifier: If the truss rod cover has three screws, it was made overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Tye triple inlaid binding at the bottom of the neck looks very japanese/korean to me. Probably samick or another korean make. Definitely not USA 60s as far as I can tell. Ask for a picture of the headstock and any stickers inside the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 The reason it doesn't have anything on the back of the headstock is because it was a sticker. It said "made in Koreea". GENERALLY, I think they go for about 400 bucks. They may be a little more, because many think they are cool and you can't quite get them like this anymore, but I have also seen them selling for about 250 when they were everywhere. It is possible they guy doesn't know much about guitars, and doesn't really know the difference. Also possible the guy is trying to pass it as a '69 and has removed all labels and such that would make it obvious. What really matters is what he is trying to sell it for. And what you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabar Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Here's what a real 60's Emperor looks like. They are BIG guitars --- 18" lower bout. The one in the OP is a Samick made Emperor II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Here's what a real 60's Emperor looks like. This Emperor appears to have been made shortly after Gibson's purchase of Epiphone, based on the pickups, and very possibly utilizing a neck left over from the stash of original Epi parts - which could explain the three screw TRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badJuJu Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 thanks for the info guys here are more pic that he sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 thanks for the info guys here are more pic that he sent That's a Korean made Emperor, most likely from the '90s or early 2000. Definitely not made in 1969. On the used market these are regularly available for around $400. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badJuJu Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 oh ok big thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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