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Epiphone dot stock pots should i upgrade Epiphone dot stock pots

#1 User is offline   YahliP 

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 08:11 PM

hi guys,

i have amazing Epiphone dot 2016,
it is already upgraded with Seymour Duncan pickups and locking grover tuners (cause i installed bigsby )

what is the stock pots that coming with Epiphone dot 2016 and what upgrade should be done (if any ) ?

Thanks so much!

Y.P
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#2 User is offline   Yorgle 

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 10:24 AM

Do the stock potentiometers work? If so, there's nothing to be gained by replacing them. Ohms is Ohms.
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#3 User is offline   Col Mustard 

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 08:39 PM

I'll answer this question because I did this job on my 2014 Epiphone ES-339 P-90 Pro.

I bought this Epiphone "semi-hollow body" in like 2015, as my vote in the Great 2015 Gibson Bash-Fest...
All of the negativity about Gibson on guitar fora was so tiresome... I just couldn't stand it.

So I went looking at the Epiphone Casino, which I'd always wanted.
I found instead: The Epiphone Casino Coupe, and I was instantly attracted.
I drooled over catalogs, I tried out one in a music store, and when I was
ready to buy one, I was totally distracted by the ES-339.

Same size body as the Coupe... (slightly larger than a Les Paul)
P-90 p'ups, which sounded great. I bought one, and fell arse over teakettle for it
and have been a fan ever since.

The only kinship that my ES-339 P-90 pro has to your Dot, is that it's sort of a
hollow body guitar. Mine's smaller than the ES-335, and the 335 has hum buckers.

But I'll bet that the wiring harness is the same. I fell so hard for my Epi ES-339 that
I decided to mod it with all the best of everything I could buy or make. I was NOT going
to tackle the wiring harness, for one glaring reason... this job is a *****.

Trying to replace the wiring on a semi hollow body guitar means everything has to
come out the F-hole, and then everything has to go back in. There's no easy way to
do it. On your ES-335 it might be a little easier, because your guitar is a full hollow
body, so the wiring harness can come out the hole for the bridge p'up.

But it's still a *****. It's fiddly and you have to follow the instructions precisely.
And here's the benefit of my experience, you get it for free. I got it the hard way.
To get the wiring harness out, first you make a cardboard template, poking holes in a
a piece of cardboard to mark the position of each pot and the switch.
Then you build your wiring harness, following the soldering instructions from the
StewMac kit. They give good instructions. If you wire it according to the instructions
and you build it on your cardboard template, it will fit in your guitar and work better
than the cheap Epi parts ever did.

Before you remove the factory harness, you tie a one meter long piece of fishing line (10lb test works fine)
to each component. When you pull the factory harness out, keep these lines going back through the holes for each
component, so you can pull each one into the proper hole. Brilliant huh?

But here's the bite. I bought CTS 500k pots to replace whatever Epiphone installed. These are the best, right?
After I built my new spiffy wiring harness, I fished the old one out through the F-hole on my ES-339 (with the solid
center block)... and I looked at what I had removed, and they were the same thing. Epiphone installed CTS 500k
pots as factory stock parts. I comforted myself by saying that of course my wiring job was superior to anyone else's...
But I wasn't kidding anyone, including myself.

So maybe you don't have to replace your wiring harness at all. IMHO the weak point of Epiphone wiring harness is
usually the switch. So you might want to replace that at some time in the future... but I'd play what you have until
the switch goes wonky, and then replace only that.
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#4 User is offline   Supersonic 

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 09:14 PM

 Col Mustard, on 15 March 2019 - 08:39 PM, said:


On your ES-335 it might be a little easier, because your guitar is a full hollow
body, so the wiring harness can come out the hole for the bridge p'up.



The 335 or 'Dot' is a semi-hollow body with a center block like your 339. It's not fully hollow like a Casino.

I agree though, trying to fish the guts out through the f-hole is about as fun as getting teeth pulled.
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Posted 15 March 2019 - 11:39 PM

Or, getting a colonoscopy.....
Bonafied, certified,

J P Patches Pal
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Posted 16 March 2019 - 08:25 AM

GET THE HOOK!

well and so... If Epiphone installs CTS pots as factory stock,
what does CTS stand for any more?

It used to stand for "Chicago Telephone Supply" and the owner
of the company was probably a drinking buddy of Mr. C. M. Berlin,
who owned Gibson in the forties.

But now I believe there are CTS electronics plants in many nations
including China. I also believe that Epi Guitars are getting better and
better, from the dim days of the 20th century to now.

They still have problems making a good toggle switch. Those have
gone south on the Epi guitars I have played. But it's easier to
replace just the switch than to do the whole shebang.

This post has been edited by Col Mustard: 16 March 2019 - 08:28 AM

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#7 User is offline   YahliP 

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 01:48 PM

Hi Guys,

Thanks so much for your posts.
i have decided to leave the stock pots (also sent email to Gibson trying figure out if it is already CTS Or Alpha which is good enough for me)

1. i will update you once i will get answer from gibson.
2. also will upload picture off my beautiful Epi DOT.


Thanks so much,

Enjoy weekend !

Yahli.
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#8 User is offline   YahliP 

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 04:02 PM

 Revolution Six, on 16 March 2019 - 08:39 AM, said:

Remove the crap chinese swich.

Install a SWITCHCRAFT.



can u send me link of which SWITCHCRAFT switch you refer to ?
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