Victory Pete Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 Does anyone know what exact kind of lacquer Gibson uses on their acoustics?
btoth76 Posted August 29, 2016 Posted August 29, 2016 Hello. I have been trying to find it out for years without any success. If You Google which nitro-cellulose lacquer Gibson uses, You will find many different opinions. Some say it's Seagrave, other think Gibson uses it's own formula. Interesting, for a couple of years now, Gibson gives highly-detailed specifications on it's product pages, but the brand of the lacquer never gets mentioned... Good luck... Bence
Victory Pete Posted August 29, 2016 Author Posted August 29, 2016 Hello. I have been trying to find it out for years without any success. If You Google which nitro-cellulose lacquer Gibson uses, You will find many different opinions. Some say it's Seagrave, other think Gibson uses it's own formula. Interesting, for a couple of years now, Gibson gives highly-detailed specifications on it's product pages, but the brand of the lacquer never gets mentioned... Good luck... Bence Right, they mention color codes and the 90 sheen rating, at least that's something, maybe all I need to know is the sheen rating.
btoth76 Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Hello. A bit of technical information on this subject: http://www.guitar-bass.net/features/all-about-nitrocellulose/ Best wishes... Bence.
Victory Pete Posted August 31, 2016 Author Posted August 31, 2016 Hello. A bit of technical information on this subject: http://www.guitar-bass.net/features/all-about-nitrocellulose/ Best wishes... Bence. Thanks
Victory Pete Posted October 10, 2016 Author Posted October 10, 2016 So apparently it is a "special" secret formula made by Sherwin Williams. It reacts badly with pickguard adhesive and pits the nitro and the pickguard lifts off. I was told they buff and polish after only 4 days of curing time. Typical Nitro takes 3 weeks for proper curing. So Gibson in its hasty production of these guitars, looking to maximize profits, continues to use this stuff. I think I am done buying Gibsons. The new Martin D-42 I just bought is flawless in every way especially the absolutely perfect finish job, it is immaculate. Here is pictures of the nitro reaction under the pickguard. http://s1108.photobucket.com/user/victoryguitarshop/slideshow/New%20Pickguard%20Installation
btoth76 Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 So apparently it is a "special" secret formula made by Sherwin Williams... Hello Pete. Are You sure about this? Please, tell me what are Your sources. They do not list instrument-making as a market they serve. http://oem.sherwin-williams.com/cs/swpf/search?search=Gibson+&t=&x=0&y=0 Thank You in advance! Best wishes... Bence
Victory Pete Posted October 12, 2016 Author Posted October 12, 2016 Hello Pete. Are You sure about this? Please, tell me what are Your sources. They do not list instrument-making as a market they serve. http://oem.sherwin-williams.com/cs/swpf/search?search=Gibson+&t=&x=0&y=0 Thank You in advance! Best wishes... Bence I was personally told in an e-mail it is made by Sherwin Williams. I asked Sherwin Williams this and have received no response.
jedzep Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 Topic hijack alert!!! Why am I getting no notifications?
Victory Pete Posted October 14, 2016 Author Posted October 14, 2016 Topic hijack alert!!! Why am I getting no notifications? Join the club http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/132062-not-getting-e-mail-notifications/page__p__1791393__fromsearch__1#entry1791393
Mtwo4ty Posted December 26, 2016 Posted December 26, 2016 Guys, I can tell you from many years of experience of being in close contact of the guitar nitro subject, that guitar mfgs, have bounced around with coating suppliers forever. It's proprietary nature between rivals, keeps things somewhat wrapped up. Application dictates the chemical make up of each companies nitro. So if you are applying conventionally, and actually get a product that's being used by a maker, and its applied electrostatically, your results will be very different. So I have found, over time, that creating a personalized mix for my specific environment from quality nitros, using top grade reducers / retarders, and flow agents, have given me a better finish than using the same nitro Gibson uses.
Victory Pete Posted December 26, 2016 Author Posted December 26, 2016 Guys, I can tell you from many years of experience of being in close contact of the guitar nitro subject, that guitar mfgs, have bounced around with coating suppliers forever. It's proprietary nature between rivals, keeps things somewhat wrapped up. Application dictates the chemical make up of each companies nitro. So if you are applying conventionally, and actually get a product that's being used by a maker, and its applied electrostatically, your results will be very different. So I have found, over time, that creating a personalized mix for my specific environment from quality nitros, using top grade reducers / retarders, and flow agents, have given me a better finish than using the same nitro Gibson uses. I would be surprised if Gibson is using an electrostatic application process. My concern currently is doing touch ups, I would want the touchup to be compatible and not stand out.
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