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Hi,

It's my first post here. 

I have been playing a Chinese 2019 Casino  for few months. It is a good, easy to play guitar.

I have just decided to change pots and caps to get a  different wiring.

However after unscrewing the neck pickup I was  little disappointed....

It doesn't look like it should, does it? I sort of lost interest to play it again...

Are your Casinos made like this as well?

 

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7 hours ago, kidblast said:

ha!  that does look a little rough..

Then again I bet if we saw how sausages were made, we'd probably stop eating em..

Yes, you are right. I talked to the local guitar builder and he is going to correct the job of the Epiphone "luthiers". I can't play it with a sausage inside 😉

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19 hours ago, Majadero said:

Yes, you are right. I talked to the local guitar builder and he is going to correct the job of the Epiphone "luthiers". I can't play it with a sausage inside 😉

ha!  if you can call what's 95% CNC machining "Luthier"  well.. Good luck, I'm sure a skilled human can correct what automation screwed up.

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I'm curious what's all wrong with that?  To my eye:  1) the neck tenon is both too short and too shallow, and/or possibly even the wrong shape altogether; 2) the obvious router issue for the pickup cavity; and 3) the back of the instrument doesn't appear to even touch the heel block.  If it were a vintage instrument, it might be worth taking it apart and fixing it right, but I don't see any practical (i.e., cost effective) way to fix all of that without disassembling most of the guitar.  If it were mine, I'd consider just filling the voids with epoxy and calling it good.  

Let us know what your luthier does with this.

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On 6/3/2020 at 4:08 PM, kidblast said:

ha!  if you can call what's 95% CNC machining "Luthier"  well.. Good luck, I'm sure a skilled human can correct what automation screwed up.

Thanks for your comment but 😉   as you can see here at the Epiphone factory tour (4:42 and 4:03), the actual fitting the neck and polishing it, is made by workers. So no excuses for such a bad craftsmanship...

 

 

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On 6/5/2020 at 9:38 PM, Yorgle said:

I'm curious what's all wrong with that?  To my eye:  1) the neck tenon is both too short and too shallow, and/or possibly even the wrong shape altogether; 2) the obvious router issue for the pickup cavity; and 3) the back of the instrument doesn't appear to even touch the heel block.  If it were a vintage instrument, it might be worth taking it apart and fixing it right, but I don't see any practical (i.e., cost effective) way to fix all of that without disassembling most of the guitar.  If it were mine, I'd consider just filling the voids with epoxy and calling it good.  

Let us know what your luthier does with this.

Thanks, I like this guitar anyway and the luthier's job is not that expensive for me so it will be done by the end of July.

I changed the pots, caps and made the 50's wiring, so the guitar sounds really sweet, comparing to its original dim sound.

The factory pickups are great too in my opinion.

 

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I have a Peerless Casino with Asian P90's which I think sound pretty good. I also have 2 Casinos with Gibson USA P90's.. 

The USA P90's sound far better... 

I don't know how much you want to spend modding but the USA P90's would make it an amazing sounding Guitar....

Good luck

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2 hours ago, Larsongs said:

I have a Peerless Casino with Asian P90's which I think sound pretty good. I also have 2 Casinos with Gibson USA P90's.. 

The USA P90's sound far better... 

I don't know how much you want to spend modding but the USA P90's would make it an amazing sounding Guitar....

Good luck

Thanks, to tell the truth the 50's wiring makes a huge difference. Guitar sounds completely different and better of course.  Chinese pickups are alnicos. Not sure about other Asian pickups. If they are good for Gary Clark Jr...... 

If I ever change them I'll install Lollar with a plastic cover.

 

 

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The Gary Clark Jr. Ltd Edition Blak n Blu Guitar has Gibson USA P90's... 

If you are happy with the Asian P90's that's great...

But, there is a reason why they use Gibson USA P90's on all high end Casinos & Gibson ES330's...... 

I was just trying to help... No worries...

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My Son in Law owns a Ltd. Edition Gary Clark Jr. Blak n Blu Casino.. They most definitely have USA P90's...

Several other Ltd. Edition Casinos also have Gibson USA P90's.. I own 2 of them.. The IBJL Revolution Casino like John Lennon's & a 50th Anniv. Ltd. 1961 Casino with Tremotone like Keith Richards..

Here are the Factory Specs for the Gary Clark Blak n Blu Casino from Epiphone...

http://guitarspecs.net/guitar/specs/1220/epiphone-gary-clark-jr-blak-blu-casino_epiphone

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