Original capacitor help on 2012 SG Diablo Tremolo

[IOMMI]

Hi! I have a Gibson SG Diablo Tremolo. It was all original till last week. The original capacitor was broken. It read on the top line... 223 and the bottom E5M. On the other side, the top line read 105, and the bottom CC. I have no idea what the capacitance is, or the tolerance. I imagine 223 is 0.022, and the M is 20+-%, and 5 is 50V. Who knows. I cannot find the exact cap.

They used these caps in the 2012 SG Diablo Premium, and the SG Diablo Tremolo. Some were blue; some were orangish yellow. They also used Bourns 500k MINI pots. 

The tech put in a 223J orange drop cap. The old quacky tone that I used to have is gone. Completely changed the tone. Sounds tight. Don't like it now.

I can't find exact replacements like the original one, but I'm having something similar to the original put in soon. They're a little bit bigger, because they're 100V, and not 50V. I'm not sure why Gibson used these weird small ceramic caps on this limited run, or where they even got em from. 

I don't care about which cap is better, or what's an upgrade; I need help identifying, and making sure I've read everything correctly. lol. I like originality. Don't mean to sound like a gear snob. 

I'll supply a link with pictures of the old cap vs the new vs the one that's going in next. 

First pic - left is original. Right is one that's in it now. 

Second pic - top is original. Bottom is replacement. 

Third pic - top is new cap. Bottom is original. 

http://imgur.com/a/2YDTHfI

Thanks for reading, and for whatever help you can give!

[mihcmac]

Gibsons tend to be setup with approximately .022uf or .047uf capacitors wether they are small Wafer, Fat, Oil or 8umblebees

You could get a bag of them from an electronic store and experiment.

Note that when they are setup in the traditional way to the tone pot (between one terminal and ground on the tone pot) , when tone is on 10 they are not doing anything until you start to crank the tone down a bit.

Edited October 16, 2021 by mihcmac

[IOMMI]

1 hour ago, mihcmac said:

Gibsons tend to be setup with approximately .022uf or .047uf capacitors wether they are small Wafer, Fat, Oil or 8umblebees

You could get a bag of them from an electronic store and experiment.

Note that when they are setup in the traditional way to the tone pot (between one terminal and ground on the tone pot) , when tone is on 10 they are not doing anything until you start to crank the tone down a bit.

I gotcha. I bought like 48 new ones. Couldn't buy just one. Lol. Yeah. I've been told that, so some people were wondering how the tone could change that much between a small ceramic cap to an orange drop. Just two different tolerance levels, really. Tone went from quacky to tightened. Tone change was dramatic.

[mihcmac]

18 hours ago, IOMMI said:

I gotcha. I bought like 48 new ones. Couldn't buy just one. Lol. Yeah. I've been told that, so some people were wondering how the tone could change that much between a small ceramic cap to an orange drop. Just two different tolerance levels, really. Tone went from quacky to tightened. Tone change was dramatic.

I like P90's so my guitars are usually setup with .047uf caps giving them a very deep range of tone using thin wafers, fat caps and bumblebees mostly. At low volume the difference seems very minute, but at high volume there is a little more difference, mostly tone. I adjust my P90's while using the mid switch position with the bridge PU adjusted as high as possible and lower the neck PU until I get the mid switch balance tone I want. Anyway enjoy tweaking your tone..