CASINO BUZZ

[rockandrollcamera]

Right, gonna keep it simple. Just took my Casino out the case, she's been in there for a few months now, and well she just doesn't sound right. She's usually really bright and I dunno, kinda light and hollow? But now she seems kinda woolly and muffled with a buzz all the way down the neck, on all the strings I would say but mostly on the Lower E, A, D. I don't have any strings to replace them with at the minute, as that would've been my first move as the strings have been on there for a while. Do you think that could be the problem? The neck looks perfectly straight to me, and as I said, the buzz is everywhere so doesn't seem to follow the symptoms of a warped neck? PLEASE HELP!...

[duane v]

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I just finished setting mine up and after a few days of back and forth here's where I ended up:

 

Truss rod adj with capo at 1st fret and pressing above 15th fret while held in playing position : very close to 0.010" as measured with a feeler gage at 6th fret. This pretty hard for me to measure even with magnifier glasses but its very close. Just checked on the 2 E strings didn't try to measure the inner strings.

 

Bridge height adj - of course with capo removed and again in playing position - set to 5/64ths on top E at the twelfth fret and 4/64ths down on bottom E. Measured with a 6" machinists scale from string bottom to fret crown.

 

Bridge intonation just set with my TU-2 just getting as close as possible open and fretted again at fret 12 once again in playing position.

 

BTW, strung with .010-.046 EB's.

 

I'd try to check my measurements if I were you even if I didn't feel comfortable trying to adjust it myself. Wood moves and my eyes are not good enough to always spot problems.

 

Here in Texas we can have pretty big swings in temp/humid between winter and summer and it definitely can affect my wood.

 

Best of luck!

[animalfarm]

I'm not a Casino owner, just an LP owner - but

you just described what sounds like a "Backbowed"

neck (bending torward the back of guitar). Old strings

aren't great, but....

How high is your string action?

Had any climate changes there? More/less humidity,

temp changes? What is your skill level regarding set-ups?

Is it within your budget to take to local pro for set-up?

I'll let the Casino owners weigh in more heavily, as their experience

will be more useful...

[charlie brown]

Sounds like it may need a bit of a "tweak," on the truss rod, and definitely new strings.

Put the new strings on first, before you do the truss rod adjustment...if needed. As to

sounding "wooly"...it may have absorbed some humidity, and will brighten back up, once

it "dries out," a bit? Not sure, there. Liverpool, being a seaport town, will be a lot more

humid, all year 'round, than inland areas. So, that may be a factor...especially, if it was

in the case for months. Depends on where it was stored, in the house, as well...near a

window, or outside wall, for example. Might have it checked, for mold or mildew, as well?

Any odd, or moldy smell? Anyway...just a few ideas/thoughts. Good luck!

 

Cheers,

CB

[rockandrollcamera]

Well I'll order some new strings for it, as for the truss-rod I don't think I'll be playing with that. How can it absorb humidity, especially in the case? I'm not actually in Liverpool anymore, I'm in Newport, South Wales. That too though is a coastal town. There is no smell of mold mildrw, just that sweet, new guitar smell. It's beautiful! I always keep it stored against an internal wall as far from a window as possible. What about temperature? How can that change things?

[gl297]

Don't be intimidated by a truss rod adjustment, Like Animalfarm said it sounds like "backbow" to me too.

Sometimes just going to a heavier gauge string will increase the tension enough to pull the neck upward. But if you like the gauge strings that are on it now I would buy a new set of strings, put them on the guitar and tune it up. Then let it sit for a day.

After a day, check to see if the new strings made any difference, if not, then take off the truss rod cover and turn it counter-clockwise (loosening)about 1/4 a turn, then let the guitar sit for at least a few hours, preferably over-night.

Be very careful when turning the truss rod and if it doesn't move relatively easy or seems to not move at all then STOP and bring it in for a professional.

 

If you are able to loosen the truss rod and after the first adjustment it still is doing the fret buzz loosen it about another 1/4 turn. So now you have done a 1/2 turn total.

I'd try it one more time after that and if it still is buzzing I'd spend the money to have a pro fix it.

 

 

 

Good luck, everyone should learn how to operate a truss rod correctly, most guitars need a tweak every now and then.

 

note: many people raise their bridge up as high as it can go in hopes that this will stop the buzzing, when a couple tweaks of the TR will keep it playing with nice low-action, if that's what you want...which I know I do.

 

*Guitars makers that put a truss rod adjustment in the heel, usually under a pickguard to boot should be shot..well maybe not shot but at least severly beaten.

[charlie brown]

Well I'll order some new strings for it' date=' as for the truss-rod I don't think I'll be playing with that. How can it absorb humidity, especially in the case? I'm not actually in Liverpool anymore, I'm in Newport, South Wales. That too though is a coastal town. There is no smell of mold mildrw, just that sweet, new guitar smell. It's beautiful! I always keep it stored against an internal wall as far from a window as possible. What about temperature? How can that change things?

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Only Temperature extremes, would be a real factor. If you're comfortable, within your house, then the guitar

should be fine, too. However...Humidity effects wood, finished or not. But, the inside of the body and other

unfinished areas will absorb it, faster. Anyway...it was just a "thought/idea," not an absolute, by any means.

Stored in the case, keeps it from breathing as much as it would, outside the case. Not sure if that's a real "factor,"

though. 40-50 percent humidity is optimum. More or less, can cause problems. Just depends on how much

"more or less," and for how long.

 

If you don't feel comfortable, with making TR adjustments, or anything else, that needs to be done, take it to a

qualified luthier/repair shop, and have them do it.

 

Good luck!

CB

[rockandrollcamera]

As for truss rod adjustment, would an allen key (hex key) be the order of the day, or do I need some specialist tool? Not that I think I'd attempt it, just curious!?

[93DMTX1281734249]

Yep 4 mm hex/allen will do you.

 

And I'll just add this - over the years learning to maintain my own gear has provided me a great deal of personal satisfaction.

 

Very Best Of Luck To You!