mloch Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 The orange i.d. label is blank.The only numbers are on the headstock imprinted on the wood 980025. Any help would be great!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 980XXX is in a very grey area. The published record I have show Gibson reaching 970XXX in 1968 and then going back to 5's, 6's, 7's, and 8's for '69. It seems they used the 9's again in the 70-72 years. So IF your guitar has no headstock volute or "made In USA" stamp, or only has ONE of these features, it would have been made sometime in 1970. If it has both these features it would have been made in 71 or 72. You might also confirm or deny this information by sticking a dental mirror through the f-hole and see if you can read the potentiometer codes off the bottom of the pots. Your looking for a seven-digit number starting with "137". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorod Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 The orange i.d. label is blank.The only numbers are on the headstock imprinted on the wood 980025. Any help would be great!! I kind of "see what your saying"....but not really.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfox14 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Please, please post some pix. How do you expect anyone will really be able to help if we can't see the guitar? Cmon, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 980XXX is in a very grey area. The published record I have show Gibson reaching 970XXX in 1968 and then going back to 5's, 6's, 7's, and 8's for '69. It seems they used the 9's again in the 70-72 years. So IF your guitar has no headstock volute or "made In USA" stamp, or only has ONE of these features, it would have been made sometime in 1970. If it has both these features it would have been made in 71 or 72. You might also confirm or deny this information by sticking a dental mirror through the f-hole and see if you can read the potentiometer codes off the bottom of the pots. Your looking for a seven-digit number starting with "137". Larry, I thought '69 was the last year of the orange label before going to the "harlequin" label. I have an ES 335 that I've pretty confidently dated to 1968 by characteristics, label, and serial number, and it's number 980494. One reference I have gives 1968 numbers as 910000 to 999999. Admittedly serial numbers in this time period can be tricky, but I believe a '68 would almost certainly have no volute, serial number stamped on peghead, no made in USA stamp, larger f-holes, and the orange "union made" label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Larry, I thought ..... Nick, I don't know whether the OP has even been back, and certainally has not contributed any further information about the details of the guitar in question. I believe we're speaking into the wind here. There is no use of you and I getting into a "discussion" about label colors and serial number cut-off dates without participation from the one that asked the question. When/if the OP wants to contribute to this conversation, I'm sure we can hash it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorod Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 The answer is...."blowin in the wind".......DUh,DUh,DUh....Another one bites the dust....DUh,DUh,DUh..another ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfox14 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 That's the trouble with newbies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR56 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 That's the trouble with newbies. ? Paul, this same newbie re-posted this topic in a new thread (why, I don't know), and you posted to it yesterday. http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/81153-re-posting-with-picsid-late-60s-335/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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