Riffster Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Do the wires that go to the pickup selector switch have to be shielded? I know pickup leads are and that those leads then go to the slector switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Do the wires that go to the pickup selector switch have to be shielded? I know pickup leads are and that those leads then go to the slector switch. Nope. Most Fenders pickup leads aren't shielded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 They don't...and kinda what Searcy is 'also' sayin, is that the switch is a single-ended part of the circuit....that means one wire. It just takes the signal from a single wire and moves it between other single wires. As you noted, on a Gibson type pup with the shielded wire, the ground or shield is ALSO the other part of the circuit, as it is the (-) wire. So, in a 'traditional' Gibson wiring where all the wire is the wire that is a single wire with the shield around it...dig: the wire from the jack uses the shield as the (-) and goes toward the switch, then the center wire is attached to the switch. The shield wire is then soldered to the other 2 shield wires that return to the pots. So, in THAT type, the shields at minimum must be connected together because the shield IS the (-). In the above type, the grounds just happen to be soldered to the base of the switch as well. The base of the switch doesn't do anything. The other type of wiring Gibson uses, they use a 4 conductor wire with a shield around it. The shield around that does not need to be connected, as the wires carry the signal and the shield does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 Thanks that means I can move forward, is 42 gauge wire ok to wire the switch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Ok.... I know you don't really have 42ga wire. Only I have that :) Type o ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 Yea meant 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 24 is good. The wire they use on the modern style harnesses looks like 26 ga to me. I think it's too thin. I think the standard gauge for a Gibson style coax or the Fender style cloth covered is 22 ga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 Great, looks like I have all the stuff to complete the wiring on my Gretsch then. I do have one last question. I bought a push/pull volume control for this guitar, just for kicks I figure I would use it for something to add a different tone to the guitar, I am thinking series/parallel. Can this be achieved with two-wire pickups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Sure. You can do the two pickup in series parallel with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 Cool, I figure if I was going to mod this guitar I would add a few extra features. I am also adding a treble bleed since I like how it works on my Squier 51. Does parallel wiring sound good? does it come into play when one pickup is on? Does the impedance or output become an issue on parallel? lower output or anything like that? Filtertrons read like 4.5kohms, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Parallel switching can be good if doesn't suffice treble in a sound, i.e. treble will be more in parallel. But the sound is a little more powerful in series. Probably it will be better in series with 4.5 kOhms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 Sure. You can do the two pickup in series parallel with each other. Hey Clint I could not find a wiring diagram on the Seymour Duncan website, there are two that are close but the one with a push/pull switch uses 4-wire humbckers and seems to be for splitting coils. This is the one that is closest but where I need help is on how to wire the switch for series/parallel. http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=2h_1v_2t_3w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I'll try to draw it for you tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Tell me if this makes sense. Sorry for the crappy Paint shop bang out. My cad program seems to have expired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 Thanks! I think it does make sense, I take it the "to pickup switch" goes to the common lug (center of the switch) For pickup one, is that ground connected to the pot lug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I take it the "to pickup switch" goes to the common lug (center of the switch) Yep. For pickup one, is that ground connected to the pot lug? Doesn't have too. So long as it goes to ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted December 14, 2012 Author Share Posted December 14, 2012 Ok Clint, I am planning to get to this over the weekend. After looking at the wiring diagrams I have a couple of questions How do I connect the tone pots? does the pickup lead got to their corresponding pots and then to the 3-way switch and the to the push/pull switch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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