glennc Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Hello, I am looking to upgrade the tuners of an Epiphone LP Jr. Special I. I am trying to find tuners that require as little drilling, counterboring and hole filling that are a significant increase in quality to the originals. All opinions and advice appreciated. Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache Guitar Repairs Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Hello, I am looking to upgrade the tuners of an Epiphone LP Jr. Special I. I am trying to find tuners that require as little drilling, counterboring and hole filling that are a significant increase in quality to the originals. All opinions and advice appreciated. Glenn It's hard to guess with no pictures, if they're the green plastic button Kluson-style you can replace directly with a set of Kluson or Gibson vintage style tuners without drilling or modifying anything. But if they're the cheap metal button ones with 2 offset set screws on each one, there isn't anything that will fit directly in that will be much better than whats on there and I'd suggest going for an upgrade to something nice and solid like a set of Grovers or Schallers since you're going to have to drill/fill holes to use pretty much any other tuners on it. Hope this helps, Travis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennc Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 It's hard to guess with no pictures, if they're the green plastic button Kluson-style you can replace directly with a set of Kluson or Gibson vintage style tuners without drilling or modifying anything. But if they're the cheap metal button ones with 2 offset set screws on each one, there isn't anything that will fit directly in that will be much better than whats on there and I'd suggest going for an upgrade to something nice and solid like a set of Grovers or Schallers since you're going to have to drill/fill holes to use pretty much any other tuners on it. Hope this helps, Travis Howdy Travis, It is the second description type. Thanks for the honest appraisal. Will worry about it when the time comes! Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache Guitar Repairs Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I take back my statement about there not being a good direct replacement, I do believe these would fit without any modifications: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_solid_peghead_tuners/Economy_Tuners/Economy_Open_Gear_Tuners.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennc Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 I take back my statement about there not being a good direct replacement, I do believe these would fit without any modifications: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_solid_peghead_tuners/Economy_Tuners/Economy_Open_Gear_Tuners.html Hello and thanks for the information. These definitely are inexpensive. Reviews aren't too bad, they are what they are. Absolute maybe {:-))! Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Rocker 59 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I personally would replace the trapezoid style tuners that are on the Epi LP Special with a good set of Grovers. Definately worth the investment , trust me on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennc Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 I personally would replace the trapezoid style tuners that are on the Epi LP Special with a good set of Grovers. Definately worth the investment , trust me on this one. Howdy, I was hoping not to spend that much money. Wonder what it would cost to have done professionally? That is more that just reaming a hole a little larger if I am not mistaken. Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjsinla Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 1361029155[/url]' post='1329167']Hello, I am looking to upgrade the tuners of an Epiphone LP Jr. Special I. I am trying to find tuners that require as little drilling, counterboring and hole filling that are a significant increase in quality to the originals. All opinions and advice appreciated. Glenn Why do you want to upgrade the current tuners? Is there something wrong with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennc Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 Why do you want to upgrade the current tuners? Is there something wrong with them? Howdy, Yes there is. After having the nut tuned and lubricated the guitar will still not stay in tune. You can see the post bending with the string pressure. The quitar will be more enjoyable in tune for longer periods! Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache Guitar Repairs Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Howdy, I was hoping not to spend that much money. Wonder what it would cost to have done professionally? That is more that just reaming a hole a little larger if I am not mistaken. Glenn I typically charge $25 for a direct tuner replacement (including a restring with fresh strings, obviously not including tuners), and $45 for non-direct since there's usually set-screw holes that need to be filled and/or drilled and some reaming that needs to be done to get everything to fit properly. If you really want it to stay in tune, I'd agree with Old Rocker 59 and go with a set of Grovers. But if you're trying to do it on the cheap then go with those stewmac ones and they'll at least be better than the ones that came stock on your guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennc Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 I typically charge $25 for a direct tuner replacement (including a restring with fresh strings, obviously not including tuners), and $45 for non-direct since there's usually set-screw holes that need to be filled and/or drilled and some reaming that needs to be done to get everything to fit properly. If you really want it to stay in tune, I'd agree with Old Rocker 59 and go with a set of Grovers. But if you're trying to do it on the cheap then go with those stewmac ones and they'll at least be better than the ones that came stock on your guitar. [/quote Thanks for the idea of a tech install. Grovers are pretty expensive + the installation to me is currently a bit too costly. I guess I will live with it and save for a while. Take care! Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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