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1983 Les Paul Goldburst?

#1 User is offline   ggjay 

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:51 AM

I just found this on my local classified page.
Is this a Goldburst?
I'm really interested in this guitar.
This guy wants an offer. How much should I offer?
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:10 AM

I like the look of those........different and you don't see them everyday.

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:06 AM

Very nice looking guitar! Is it a standard? Hard to tell value without knowing that, or without more pics of the guitar. From what I can see it appears to be in real good shape.
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:28 PM

It is a Les Paul Custom, and yes, appears to be a gold burst (note you can't see any grain in the top). Most LP Customs from that era in decent condition would be worth about $2,000 - $2,500, but if that is a rare finish it might be worth more. Here is a link to another one for sale, asking $3,200.

http://www.gbase.com...s-1981-gold-bu#

Since he is asking for an offer, I would probably start out low, say $1,500, and see what he says.

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:44 PM

View PostGunner, on 05 November 2013 - 12:28 PM, said:

It is a Les Paul Custom, and yes, appears to be a gold burst (note you can't see any grain in the top). Most LP Customs from that era in decent condition would be worth about $2,000 - $2,500, but if that is a rare finish it might be worth more. Here is a link to another one for sale, asking $3,200.

http://www.gbase.com...s-1981-gold-bu#

Since he is asking for an offer, I would probably start out low, say $1,500, and see what he says.


I think 1500 should be a good start.
Not seeing any grain on the top convinces me that it must be a gold burst. Thanks for that hint! Very helpful.
Meanwhile I've found this: http://www.lespaulfo...ad.php?t=165294
One of the pictures is a letter from George Gruhn regarding this exact type of guitar.
The guitar I'm interested in seems to have Orange Peel.
Does anyone know what that is exactly and how much it diminishes the value of the guitar.

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 02:19 PM

Orange peel is typical for nitrocellulose finished mahogany. All mahogany parts of my SG and LP guitars do have it. It seems to be caused by varying soak of finish across the wooden surface.

Similar deviations from the ideal smooth finish are common on alder bodies of Fenders, too.
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 02:36 PM

View Postggjay, on 05 November 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

I think 1500 should be a good start.
Not seeing any grain on the top convinces me that it must be a gold burst. Thanks for that hint! Very helpful.
Meanwhile I've found this: http://www.lespaulfo...ad.php?t=165294
One of the pictures is a letter from George Gruhn regarding this exact type of guitar.
The guitar I'm interested in seems to have Orange Peel.
Does anyone know what that is exactly and how much it diminishes the value of the guitar.


The orange peel on that guitar looks particularly bad to me as I can actually see it in the picture. Usually, it's kind of hard to see it much unless you're looking at it in person. Also, you would want to know if that guitar has the original Shaw pick ups in it.
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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:01 PM

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Orange peel is typical for nitrocellulose finished mahogany. All mahogany parts of my SG and LP guitars do have it. It seems to be caused by varying soak of finish across the wooden surface.

Similar deviations from the ideal smooth finish are common on alder bodies of Fenders, too.


I believe there is a difference. To me, orange peel looks like orange peel. When the lacquer settles into the grain of the wood, that looks different. Generally, orange peel occurs when the lacquer is applied and they work to buff it out at the factory. When the lacquer settles into the grain of the wood as the guitar ages, that is not called orange peel I believe. The picture of this Les Paul here almost looks like it had lacquer overspray and it wasn't buffed..
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Posted 06 November 2013 - 03:18 AM

View Postggjay, on 05 November 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

...The guitar I'm interested in seems to have Orange Peel.
Does anyone know what that is exactly and how much it diminishes the value of the guitar.


Hello!

No, it won't, that's natural. My '78 Recording has a very slight orange peel as well. And that one is a well-treated guitar without any restoration attempts. Just like checking, it won't affect it's value.

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