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#1 User is offline   Mickthemiller 

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Posted 28 September 2016 - 10:29 PM

I've been looking at Gibson arch tops on line and it seems the high end models don't have book matched backs. Is this so or is it just the way they appear in photographs?
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Posted 29 September 2016 - 09:22 AM

all of the high end Gibsons w/carved backs have always been bookmatched
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Posted 30 September 2016 - 03:39 PM

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Some matched up better than others.


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Posted 02 October 2016 - 08:35 PM

If you're looking at instruments such as the ES-335 & ES-330, most have laminated backs with the outer layer being one piece of maple, rather than book-matched.
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Posted 05 October 2016 - 03:57 PM

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 09:15 PM

View PostMickthemiller, on 28 September 2016 - 10:29 PM, said:

I've been looking at Gibson arch tops on line and it seems the high end models don't have book matched backs. Is this so or is it just the way they appear in photographs?



My recent L7 has a beautiful book matched back
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Posted 17 October 2016 - 10:54 AM

View Postbobouz, on 02 October 2016 - 08:35 PM, said:

If you're looking at instruments such as the ES-335 & ES-330, most have laminated backs with the outer layer being one piece of maple, rather than book-matched.

To my guess these are rotary cut veneer layers.
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Posted 19 February 2017 - 12:26 PM

That would be nice to have booked matched, but it's made of ply's with one piece veneer maple. Haven't seen or been aware of any book matched ES production Gibson.

Unless, it's the curved out solid piece top/back of some smaller scaled ES body.
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Posted 19 February 2017 - 06:19 PM

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Not sure what the the OP was asking about, because using the terms 'archtops' and 'high end' can confuse two separate lines of Gibson guitars.

Gibson's high end archtops are like these - http://www.gibson.co...rs/Archtop.aspx - mostly book matched.

Gibson's archtop ES line has mostly lam backs - http://www.gibson.co...Guitars/ES.aspx - a single piece of plywood with no book matching, as has been mentioned.


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Posted 24 February 2017 - 02:12 AM

View Postkaicho8888, on 19 February 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

That would be nice to have booked matched, but it's made of ply's with one piece veneer maple. Haven't seen or been aware of any book matched ES production Gibson.

Actuallly, there have been some two-piece front & back vintage ES's produced, and at least one reissue of those.

The 2013 ES-330 VOS recreated the two-piece maple front & back seen in the original 1959 model.

A little more info on this: 2012 was the first year of the ES-330 VOS, and it was based on '59 specs. I have one of these (natural finish), and the front & back are one-piece.

Then at the beginning of the 2013 model year, Gibson changed it to a two-piece front & back to recreate the two-piece originals..... but by the end of 2013, they returned to the one-piece front & back.

I'm guessing people didn't much care for the two-piece version. I know I sure didn't!
Gibsons: '22 "A" Mandolin / '66 ES 125T / '90 Tennessean / '00 J-100 Xtra
'02 J-45 Rosewood / '02 SG Faded-moon / '06 ES 335 / '09 ES 339
'10 ES 330L / '11 ES 335-P90s / '12 ES 330 VOS / '12 LP Special
'12 J-185 / '13 LG2-AE / '13 Midtown Kalamazoo / '14 J-15
Epis: '66 FT45n Cortez / '00 AIUSA-John Lee Hooker 1964 Sheraton
'05 McCartney-Elitist 1964 Texan / '09 Elitist Casino / '13 EL-00 Pro
Guilds: '73 F-30R / '74 F-40 / '76 G-37 / '92 D-6 / '94 JF-30 / '14 A-150b
Martins: '01 Custom Rosewood Dread / '09 OM-1
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 03:44 AM

Just brought a zombie thread from 2013 back to life, as it relates directly to this discussion.

See "ES 330 VOS - I want one but don't like the 2-piece parts."

You'll find me conveying some of the same info as above.
Gibsons: '22 "A" Mandolin / '66 ES 125T / '90 Tennessean / '00 J-100 Xtra
'02 J-45 Rosewood / '02 SG Faded-moon / '06 ES 335 / '09 ES 339
'10 ES 330L / '11 ES 335-P90s / '12 ES 330 VOS / '12 LP Special
'12 J-185 / '13 LG2-AE / '13 Midtown Kalamazoo / '14 J-15
Epis: '66 FT45n Cortez / '00 AIUSA-John Lee Hooker 1964 Sheraton
'05 McCartney-Elitist 1964 Texan / '09 Elitist Casino / '13 EL-00 Pro
Guilds: '73 F-30R / '74 F-40 / '76 G-37 / '92 D-6 / '94 JF-30 / '14 A-150b
Martins: '01 Custom Rosewood Dread / '09 OM-1
Breedlove: American Series OO Mandolin
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 04:25 PM

View Postbobouz, on 24 February 2017 - 03:44 AM, said:

Just brought a zombie thread from 2013 back to life, as it relates directly to this discussion.

See "ES 330 VOS - I want one but don't like the 2-piece parts."

You'll find me conveying some of the same info as above.

bob, I just posted a question in that topic: http://forum.gibson....ost__p__1837462
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Posted 25 February 2017 - 02:55 AM

View PostJimR56, on 24 February 2017 - 04:25 PM, said:

bob, I just posted a question in that topic: http://forum.gibson....ost__p__1837462

Jim - I did respond in the other thread..... Bob
Gibsons: '22 "A" Mandolin / '66 ES 125T / '90 Tennessean / '00 J-100 Xtra
'02 J-45 Rosewood / '02 SG Faded-moon / '06 ES 335 / '09 ES 339
'10 ES 330L / '11 ES 335-P90s / '12 ES 330 VOS / '12 LP Special
'12 J-185 / '13 LG2-AE / '13 Midtown Kalamazoo / '14 J-15
Epis: '66 FT45n Cortez / '00 AIUSA-John Lee Hooker 1964 Sheraton
'05 McCartney-Elitist 1964 Texan / '09 Elitist Casino / '13 EL-00 Pro
Guilds: '73 F-30R / '74 F-40 / '76 G-37 / '92 D-6 / '94 JF-30 / '14 A-150b
Martins: '01 Custom Rosewood Dread / '09 OM-1
Breedlove: American Series OO Mandolin
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