BluesKing777
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58 minutes ago, Dave F said:
I suppose you could M2M order any color you want, but that would require one to buy a new Gibson guitar which eliminates 80% of the members.
Grumpy Rodriguez is on the right track, but nobody showed her the Dove inlays on the neck body and headstock like I mean!
Olivia will be cross at the custom shop when she sees my L-00 Dove Cherry Burst Custom Max!
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Did you string it, or the luthier?
Did you get a proper set up from the luthier or just tuner installation?
Going out of tune is usually slippage at the tuner, catching at a burred nut slot, not pulling the ball end of the string right up to the bridge plate, or plain old not stretching the strings on installation, dud strings?
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15 minutes ago, PrairieDog said:
I hear you, I never understood why they don’t make blinged up versions of the smaller bodies? You are right, maybe instead of a toucan (which are kinda clunky and squawky, they could call it “The Wren.” There is some weird equation that only large bodies = expensive and so get flash, and small bodies = low cost, so just get plain, or brown bursts. They don’t seem to grok that people play different size bodies for different tones/reasons, and expense is not always the main consideration. Now, in the prewar banjos, the builds were basically the same, so it was the accouterments/inlay that what moved you up price-wise in the model line.
Exactly!
You get it.
First world problem and when I wanted the Blues King all those years ago, I would never have imagined owning a cherry burst dread! Need that L-00, don’t care if it is green......
Of course a Custom order can be anything but...you know, what about a standard release - L-00 Red Robin with inlays everywhere!
My Better Half enjoys the look of my Dove cherry - not much for listening to me anymore - and her studied opinion is that the natural finish guitars and the brown finish bursts look like furniture.....
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More boring old brown burst things!
I mean cherry burst with some fancy inlay bird pickguard and fancy neck inlays and headstock.....the L-00 Toucan Supreme?
Liven up a dull day without lugging a great big Dove or Bird around. Small body Dove cherry!
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Anyhow, I suppose I was continuing my long theme of L-00 and small shaped guitar lovers missing out on all the stuff the J45 and Bird lovers get - no Historic L-00, no LG Murph but Historic LG.....build it and they will come, wasn't that a movie?
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5 hours ago, zombywoof said:
Never mind the finish, the pickguard in the photo of the Blues King looks like it was installed by someone with their eyes on the clock waiting for quitting time to come.
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Made late Friday afternoon after getting fired in the morning and taking a long lunch at a bar, ya think?🙂
Except....my friend bought a used 2013 BluesKing, mine is 2007 - and the pickguard is EXACTLY the same...company orders from Ren?
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5 hours ago, E-minor7 said:
Never sold a guitar that appealed so much to me it seemed like a keeper, so no regrets.
Hard to pick a spezial No 1. But my 1980 Gibson-re-topped, 2012 re-necked now long-scale 1966 Country Western is irreplaceable. There's simply nothing or no one like it on earth.
The Harrison Les Paul is unique. Was originally a goldtop with PAF pups. It was refinished by Gibson in approx 1966, SG style.
I plus band too was booked to play for H.A. many many years ago - by the director of a film about them. A week before the premiere they gunned down a man or 2 and I thereafter withdrew. A move also never regretted.Giggled it:
Wiki George Harrison 's Lucy Gibson story:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_(guitar)
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As I was looking at the photo of my 2005 Gibson Dove cherry burst custom shop orange label when I posted it in another thread, I was thinking, thinking, yeah hurts it a bit too much thinking, but....why don't Gibson Acoustic make a small body Dove cherry burst?
L-00 South American Toucan or something brighter than the plain old sunburst or vanilla!
I mean, I often grab the Dove cherry on a gloomy dull day to lighten up the house! I know they have the L-00 Deluxe on cherry burst but no...birds or inlays everywhere! Maybe Gibson thinks us L-00 lovers are a grim ole lot?
2007 Gibson Blues King L-00, famous look I know but......looks like an old boot.:
2005 Dove cherry - happy!:
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4 hours ago, E-minor7 said:
Never sold a guitar that appealed so much to me it seemed like a keeper, so no regrets.
Hard to pick a spezial No 1. But my 1980 Gibson-re-topped, 2012 re-necked now long-scale 1966 Country Western is irreplaceable. There's simply nothing or no one like it on earth.
The Harrison Les Paul is unique. Was originally a goldtop with PAF pups. It was refinished by Gibson in approx 1966, SG style.
I plus band too was booked to play for H.A. many many years ago - by the director of a film about them. A week before the premiere they gunned down a man or 2 and I thereafter withdrew. A move also never regretted.I must have hoped they gunned me down as I arrived - so so so nervous every time - save having to go on stage - booom....
Yep, it can go real wrong, but generally the bands are very well looked after....or no bands would go anymore.....
I played the same festival 3 times - first 2 times on a Saturday - once late afternoon as the sun went down - the place was jumping Saturday!!!!! Next time, different band, everything was late and we waited until around 4AM...useless.....strange. Next time in another band was Sunday afternoon...and it is a little bit hard to get the audience attention by then....😬😁🤩
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11 hours ago, rbpicker said:
My first, a new 62 J45 cherry sunburst. I bought it new and later went into the Air Force. Stationed at Eglin AFB, Florida. Married with a young wife and not making much money so I took it to a pawn shop and the guy paid me $60 US dollars for it. He saw me coming, but that bought some baloney and rice for a few weeks back then.
Live and learn is the moral of that story.
Roger
There was a J45 cherry sunburst at that pawn shop I haunt, long gone now......I decided I prefer the wider nut of my 2005 Dove cherry burst, pic above....
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For more information, watch the Gibson TV videos - The Process. They mention all Gibsons are not actually flat and show the body build! Even if the world is. NO, I said that, not Gibson.
Now more FYI.....Bill Collings truly believed you got a different guitar sound with flat back and flat tops, so the first Waterloo WL-14 is built flat. There you go, no idea about the other Waterloo models.
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2 hours ago, Larsongs said:
I think those days are long gone….. For deals anyway…
After I got home from Vietnam I needed an Electric Guitar.. I had about $75.00… There was nothing new for that kind of money.. So we went to all the Pawn Shops in Wash. D.C. I was about to give up when one of my buddies spotted a Guitar in the back of the Pawn shop high on a shelf. It was almost completely blocked by stuff with only the headstock sticking out..
I said, what’s that.. The guy said, it’s an old Guitar & was pretty rough.. I asked if I could see it.. He brought it down..
It was dinged & had lots of scratches. Ugly brown color. Only one Pickup, one Volume & one Tone control.. I thought not much of a Guitar but it played ok.
I asked, how much? The guy said, how much you got? I said, $75.00.. He said, that’s exactly how much it is! Wow, did I sucker for that.. LOL..
Turned out to be a mid to late 50’s Les Paul Jr.. It was a fantastic Guitar & sounded amazing. The Lead Player in our Band, kept bugging me to buy it.. When a really cool Vox Phantom became available I sold to him for $75.00 & bought the Vox.. Which later was stolen…
I should never have sold that Guitar!
Yeah, like I said earlier, they know everything price wise at the pawn shops these days - but people are people and people run out of cash and their guitar lands at the pawn shop if they are in a hurry for that cash and can't wait for a sale.....
These days, a lot of the pawn shops list their offerings online - a search online is much easier in some ways that searching the whole pawn shop in person! I search - Latest or Gibson or Martin or Maton.....no good, search Latest.
I get the ones I buy fixed by my luthier, with some great results! They are always disgustingly dirty, bad strings, awful setup, nut, saddle.....
Latest pawn shop buy was my 1968 Ramirez Estudio I posted somewhere earlier.....this has NOT been 'serviced' as yet......and the luthier is so busy........wait. But wow, I have been playing lots of nylon string classical and instrumentals.
So, last buy was a 2005/6 Martin Eric Clapton 000-28EC - horrible before luthier.
Before that was my 2002 Gibson J50 custom shop orange label - also horrible before luthier.
Before that - 2005/6 Gibson Dove Cherry Burst custom shop orange label - with full Baggs Anthem - also horris before luthier...
Back a ways, different pawn shop - 1993 Lowden S35 that someone had got signed by Tommy Emmanuel - on the top! No luthier needed - guitar was a life changing incredible instrument!
Back even further - 1952 Gibson ES 125 - have not done anything to it. Also don't play it anymore.
Here is a photo of the Dove - the luthier got the writing off! And touched up a few spots wrecked by a guitar stand...and a new bone nut, saddle and of course a wonderful setup! If someone played it, they would offer gold....not the current used price......it is that good:
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21 minutes ago, Murph said:
I'm hip. I was a Boogie man, too.
I have never tried a Rectifier....
My 22 was Smith’s update of an old Fender Princeton.....master on 7 1/2 but gain on 2, for that disgusting growly Zappa chord tone. Blahhhhhh!!
The Riff from Slime thru 22 would fix the noisy selfish neighbours, probably around 1 - 2 am! Ha ha ha. Probably get jail these days.
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3 minutes ago, Murph said:
Yep, mine too. I never needed a Tube Screamer until I bought the Strat.
Sorry to break it to you about 30 years or so too late......but my Mesa Boogie was sensational for Strats/Teles plugged direct.
22 Watts sounded like 200! Mic to PA. The end of carrying my wardrobe with me everywhere. (Marshall and cab).
Little Boogie has been my tuner, slides, capos table for 25 years........has microphonic pots for master....probably should get it fixed and move it along but......
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2 hours ago, PrairieDog said:
Wasn’t there a discussion about the wine red one a while ago? Some pics went up and someone chimed in they use to own it? Was that you? Or maybe that was someplace else… rough past few days, my mind is a bit of a fog.
Not me.
I don’t think I have put that photo up before. I took a iphone photo of the original photo to load it to computer.
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44 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said:
Did the Angels do your security like at Altamont?
Ha ha, they were....absolute ...Angels! 😁
I also played at all the various HQs and some bars they haunted.
Never had any problems, like I said I was a superstar and also invincible! And the band played on......
Gibson Les Paul Custom in my photo - now they go for large amounts of gold! At the time of the gigs, I didn’t even consider leaving it home! Gulp, would probably take a Fender Highway or some cheapie now! But that Les Paul was made for outside gigs in a BIG concert rig! What a tone, direct to amp, mic to PA...no foot pedals. Close to something illegal, it was so cool!
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1 hour ago, vacamartin said:
And so it goes.....i'm still hoping for that pawn shop miracle find!🍺
No such thing - they know exactly what a guitar is worth and I got a pittance for the LP plus all these guitar gadgets.....but I still had a place to live!
At least I haven’t seen someone playing it...anywhere. There were a limited number in that dark wine red look.....
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Though I only play acoustic fingerpicking guitar, for about the last 30 years...I was a superstar for a minute around late 80s.....well, we thought we were, ......or might be....😁
Photo below - live at festival with Gibson Les Paul Custom, behind me on stands - Fender Strat, Fender Telecaster and the Mesa Boogie Studio 22 mic'd through massive PA!
Star! Superstar....ha!
THEN....a few days later the singer and the bass player quit the band and the rest wandered off to various side projects, and that was IT.
Les Paul to the pawn shop not long after. BOING.
Pretty sure George Harrison played one like mine in the newer Get Back movie.
Here tis:
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I often watch those AC videos through my TV...saw this one and thought - why do we not have a small body model - they get ignored lately.
But I guess that headstock would probably be way too heavy for a small body L-00/LG.
Apart from that, I am a big black guitar fan. Down side - fingerprints. Upside, Keef says black guitars sound better!😝
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Anyway, the crux of the matter is....
We don't want Gibson to become a luxury brand - we want them to be...cheap! 😬
Like my old ones...
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2 hours ago, Murph said:
I thought they made cough drops...
Oohhhh, luxury high quality cough drops!😬
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Well, BK777 awaits like a spider - drop your gear to the pawn shop! 😬
See how fast I move if it is anything good!
Then beg my luthier to fix it for me. But not my Lowden S35 - had a K&K Trinity put in, that is all.
OK, finishes and you get what you pay for.....my Martin, Gibson, Maton etc gloss feels like a cross between glass and plastic? My Lowdens feel like..........and look like....skin! Get a chance to hold a Lowden for a look, if you can. Clever stuff and kudos where kudos are due, eh?
I’m thinking the Gibson Murphy Lab finish is feeling a bit like the Lowden ‘feel’. I would have to try the natural finish model to know but ...haven’t yet.
P.S. Googled the Lowden finish - this is what I got:
"The Lowden finish system is different in two ways at least from the
more comonly used satin finish on other guitars:1) Other satin finishes are usually achieved by spraying one or two
coats of lacquer which contain a % of matting agent mixed into the
gloss base lacquer, thus satin lacquer in the tin has a 'milky'
appearance. Once dry, the satin coat is not touched or rubbed down in
any way. After a time this usually does go glossy, as with contact it
is more or less 'buffed' to a gloss. Lowden differs in that satin
lacquer is used all the way through the spray coats, not only the top
coats.2) The final coat on a Lowden is rubbed down with very fine wet or dry
paper used wet and then steel wooled in 'tramlines' by hand. The finish
then looks great and feels very smooth. This adds to the depth of the
satin effect, thus resisting the effects of use much longer. On a non
rubbed finish the matting effect is achieved by the sprayed lacquer but
the hand rubbed matting is reached by, in effect, creating very fine
straight line scratches in the surface of the finish."BluesKing777.
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41 minutes ago, Larsongs said:
Mercedes Benz is a luxury brand.. And they have their share of duds. I know from experience..
IMO, Price point has a lot to do with what is considered “Luxury”….. Whether it is or or isn’t…
Your Guitar would be considered the Pinnacle of Luxury Luthier-ship!
Well, I have 2 old BMWs, luxury brand but not much to buy older ones - coz the parts cost more than buying the car! But I have narrowed down to my fave mechanic, who loves my old E30. ......which in the 80s was ‘quote car mags’ - the first ‘small car luxury brand built by robots’! But a heater that...worked! Air con worked! 4 wheel disc brakes that made that Ford behind lay rubber! People use to yell rude things at me 25 years ago but now all the old dudes stare at us with their mouth hanging down! Paint still looks incredible. Looked after it the way I look after guitars - do stuff as needed but not too much! No rust because they galvoed the whole thing - my poor last Ford went off dripping rust on the back of a truck after I payed to get it taken!
So, Lowden....apart from build quality, the work they put into their finish is just insane. It is shot with gloss and rubbed back so many times until it is a strange guitar with a very ethereal ‘gloss but matt’ thing going on!
P.S. found my 1993 Lowden S35 at a pawn shop! What moron sold it, I know not!
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Anyway..back to ‘luxury brand’ biz....
I just played my 1993 Lowden S35 and even at 31years of age, THAT is a luxury brand guitar. Lowden. Wow! They work on the various elements until they are absolutely ..PERFECT. FLAWLESS......amazing. Quality control at 100% perfect! Small factory in Ireland producing stunning guitars. Whether you like them is not the point here.
Gibson, Martin, Taylor, Guild etc..are FACTORY BUILD guitars with varying quality control.......they must allow for a certain percentage of real duds to get through the system. The forums are full of faults and complaints......all build areas!
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Some people don’t seem to be able to read, then go off on their own tangent.
I am talking about an L-00 in cherry red burst with the same inlays as the Dove cherry burst I posted first post....not the same old brown guitars.
I am saying Gibson Acoustic make all the Hummingbirds and Doves in cherry burst and inlays but not the L-00 model.....nice and bright to liven up a dull day like my Dove - without lugging a big dread around!
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