HankCole Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 I have a 1972 Les Paul "Model." That is all that is on the headstock ; other than Gibson of course. (Yeah the one I broke the neck on) I was in the music store the other day and saw what looked like my Les Paul but it had "Standard" on the headstock. Anyone know anything about the evolution of the Model / Standard? Just courious.
Thundergod Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 ...Im sure some of the more knowledgeable guys around here will know the exact story with dates and everything, but for now, all I can tell you is gibson has changed the headstock writing a lot. Sometimes it says les paul model, some special eds have the holy, sometimes it just says les paul, sometimes it says les paul+standard/classic and so on. Sometimes the TRC has the model writen on it. Any of you guys know the correct year for each of those variations?
deepblue Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 Actually the word "Standard" didnt appear on TRC's untill 1960. Thats why to call a Les Paul a Standard before 1960 would be more or less incorrect. Then after that I saw no ryme nor reason or pattern as to which models got them and which ones didnt. The LP I bought in 1991 did have "Standard" on the TRC. The LP I bought last January came with a blank..no Standard. My R9 that I bought a few months ago didnt have it, but its a 1959 reissue so I suppose its not historically acurate to include it on the guitar. I think to save a few pennies Gibby has decided to leave them blank....I may be wrong.
modoc_333 Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 i have never seen "standard" on a 1960. when the SG/LPs came out the TRC said les paul or les paul custom. the "standard" TRC didn't come out until the mid 70s. there are earlier examples or TRCs that say other things, but not the script "standard" like he is talking.
deepblue Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 i have never seen "standard" on a 1960. when the SG/LPs came out the TRC said les paul or les paul custom. the "standard" TRC didn't come out until the mid 70s. there are earlier examples or TRCs that say other things, but not the script "standard" like he is talking. dunno...I got this information from the Haynes Les Paul manual.
HankCole Posted December 26, 2008 Author Posted December 26, 2008 So how many years did they call it a "Model?"
modoc_333 Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 they have said "model" on the headstock script since they came out. the truss rods were blank (or said les paul custom) until the mid 70s. they started being called "standard" in late 58 or early 59 in the catalogs.
littlekenny Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 what does this have to do with tomatos?
MReynolds Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 they have said "model" on the headstock script since they came out. the truss rods were blank (or said les paul custom) until the mid 70s. they started being called "standard" in late 58 or early 59 in the catalogs. Correct mostly. If you go over to Gruhn's site there's a '53 that says "Les Paul Model" on the headstock. There is also a 1960 Les Paul SG Standard that just has "Les Paul" on the TRC and a 1961 Les Paul SG Custom that has the same...the Custom has the full name on the pickguard between the neck and the neck pickup...it says "Les Paul Custom" Some later models just say "Custom" (like the one from '63). And didn't the Deluxe's that came out in '69 say Deluxe?
stymye Posted December 27, 2008 Posted December 27, 2008 what does this have to do with tomatos? it's 'tomatoe'
modoc_333 Posted December 27, 2008 Posted December 27, 2008 Correct mostly. If you go over to Gruhn's site there's a '53 that says "Les Paul Model" on the headstock. There is also a 1960 Les Paul SG Standard that just has "Les Paul" on the TRC and a 1961 Les Paul SG Custom that has the same...the Custom has the full name on the pickguard between the neck and the neck pickup...it says "Les Paul Custom" Some later models just say "Custom" (like the one from '63). And didn't the Deluxe's that came out in '69 say Deluxe? yeah, my first reply covered other anomolies like these. and yeah, the deluxe said "deluxe"
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