62burst Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) Ever notice the same photos being used on eBay for different listings with different sellers? Nothing new, right? This unusual one just came up: There is a similar listing, same photos, also from Japan, for ~ $1000 more. I found my J-185 TV Natural finish listed this same way. The shop's logo overlaid on the photo made it difficult to see the cut of the nut- the seller was messaged for a closeup, which was never responded to. Days went by, finally, I contacted the shop directly, whose website claimed "we do not advertise on eBay" and ~"if you see one of our listings there, it is fraudulent..Contact us directly through our website" Could a shadow account and a disclaimer such as this be used to avoid eBay seller fees? And once again, that eBay listing was also well above price shown on the actual seller's website. Either way, if not for that listing, I would've never found that 2007 natural-finished J-185 TV, which is fairly uncommon. Hmmm... In researching buying a guitar from Japan, there were many reports of people advertising guitars that they did not have, and if they could sell it (for a profit), they would then go and buy the guitar from the shop that actually had the guitar. Another added advantage to play before you pay. Or at least asking for additional photos. The only other photo found of the curious Dove-ish J-180 Ebony and Everly, out in natural light: Edited January 19, 2020 by 62burst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard McCoy Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) It's a J-180/Dove Custom Shop, a Montana reissue based on a special-order guitar made in the 1960s. In Japan, these kinds of guitar middlemen that list guitars from unaffiliated Japanese guitar shops for international sale are legitimate; it's standard business practice there even. It's still cheaper to buy from the shop directly—if they allow it because often Japanese guitar shops don't deal with foreign customers. That's what the middlemen are there for. Edited January 19, 2020 by Leonard McCoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Japan gets to order there as they want them.. there market is huge.. they get stuff we wont see around here.. Remember Hogeyes J185 with the Horses on the finger board.. ? Japan ordered those with less Horses.. and the U.S never seen one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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