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Neck vibration on ES 335 TDC

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Greetings. I have a 1970 ES 335 TDC which I have had since 1980. I have always had a love/hate relationship with it. When the open G string is plucked, the neck vibrates and the note feels and sounds unpleasant! I recently replaced the trapeze tailpiece with a stud which has helped a bit but even with that and a LARGE block of brass screwed to the back of the headstock, it is still not right. I could never bring myself to part with it though because I am left handed and mainly a bass player and it is now a part of the family. I am considering removing the fingerboard and putting in a couple of graphite rods in the neck. I've done it before to my equally bad '72 Precision bass with great results but would obviously prefer not to! Any thoughts?   

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Before you do anything drastic, take it to a good repairman for a look and a setup. 

It will be worth it if he can diagnose and fix the problem, which may be something as simple as a badly cut nut or a loose truss rod.  I suspect the brass block is not making any difference.

Best wishes!

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On 8/27/2020 at 12:08 AM, jdgm said:

Before you do anything drastic, take it to a good repairman for a look and a setup. 

It will be worth it if he can diagnose and fix the problem, which may be something as simple as a badly cut nut or a loose truss rod.  I suspect the brass block is not making any difference.

Best wishes!

Thanks for your reply. I'll try tweaking the truss rod to see what happens. In all these years I haven't adjusted it because I've never needed to! It's very stable in that respect. The brass block has made a noticeable difference and if I grip the headstock firmly it gets even better! It also needs a fret job. It was from that period when the rage was wide, flat frets.

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8 hours ago, Hodsonics said:

......and if I grip the headstock firmly it gets even better!

 

I had the same thing on a guitar I bought 2 years ago; if I held the headstock or any of the tuning keys the vibration/buzz stopped.

Turned out to be a machine head. 

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I'd look at the tuning machine for that G string.  If the problem was in the neck itself all the strings would buzz or make an odd vibration noise.  Probably not a serious problem, but a stock 50 year old tuning machine could easily have worn out or worked it's way loose.

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On 8/29/2020 at 8:10 PM, jdgm said:

 

I had the same thing on a guitar I bought 2 years ago; if I held the headstock or any of the tuning keys the vibration/buzz stopped.

Turned out to be a machine head. 

Thanks, I check that out.

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On 9/14/2020 at 10:43 AM, Hodsonics said:

Thanks, I check that out.

Well thanks for that tip! The tuners are 50 years old and hardly smooth and  with no rattles so I figured that the problem was somewhere else. I swapped the high E tuner for the G tuner and there was an instant improvement! I have ordered a new set of Kluson tuners. Now for a refret!

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