Jump to content
Gibson Brands Forums

Inherited ES 345 Stereo Cherry "SECOND"


BarefootKevin

Recommended Posts

A friend of mine recently passed away and I inherited 3 of his guitars, a 1999 Taylor 914c, a 1997 Fender American Deluxe Bass, and a Gibson ES 345 Stereo Cherry that is stamped "SECOND" on the back of the headstock underneath the serial #. I want to get them all insured and know what the others are worth (that was easy), how do I find out the provenance and value of the Gibson. Serial # is 81351022 with "SECOND" stamped just beneath it. The finish on the guitar is beautiful, don't know that I would call it flawless, and there is some oxidation or most likely plating wear on the pick-ups. No bigsby, but there is a trapeze style tailpiece. Tried to post pics, but having a hard time resizing them to fit the requirements here.

Edited by BarefootKevin
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, BarefootKevin said:

A friend of mine recently passed away and I inherited 3 of his guitars, a 1999 Taylor 914c, a 1997 Fender American Deluxe Bass, and a Gibson ES 345 Stereo Cherry that is stamped "SECOND" on the back of the headstock underneath the serial #. I want to get them all insured and know what the others are worth (that was easy), how do I find out the provenance and value of the Gibson. Serial # is 81351022 with "SECOND" stamped just beneath it. The finish on the guitar is beautiful, don't know that I would call it flawless, and there is some oxidation or most likely plating wear on the pick-ups. No bigsby, but there is a trapeze style tailpiece. Tried to post pics, but having a hard time resizing them to fit the requirements here.

Since it was probably sold originally to an employee, and Gibson didn't sell it retail due to whatever flaw it has, probably just something with the finish. Its worth probably a good deal of cash, but probably just needs to have a bit taken off the price. See on Reverb what that same year are selling for go from there.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

8-decade

135-135th day of the year

1-last digit of the year (1981)

022-the 22nd guitar stamped that day in Kalamazoo.

The serial number indicates the guitar was stamped on it around May 15, 1981. It would have been completed within 2-3 week of that date. It was made in Kalamazoo, MI. Many guitars with insignificant cosmetic flaws were stamped “second” and possibly sold cheaper at the wholesale level. There was a time when a “second” carried a “less than perfect” stigma but now that it’s 40+ years old, that stamping is more of an annoyance. It may have a small effect on the resale value but not horrific. If you find the pickup is truly dead and not just a wiring problem, have it rewound rather than replacing it. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...
On 12/30/2022 at 12:53 PM, BarefootKevin said:

One of my original questions: Does the serial # indicate when it was made? 

Also, the bridge pickup appears to be dead, will be having my luthier check it out.

If your guitar is wired for stereo and you are not using a stereo cable (at a minimum a TRS to TS if going to a non-stereo amp), you will get one pickup (generally the bridge not working.  You can work around this by pulling a regular plug halfway out of your your guitar’s input jack.  You should get both pickups working separately and the middle position together.  If they are wired out of phase (how the original 345/355 pickups were wired), you will get that thin BB King/Peter Green thing going if you are in the middle position and both volumes are at the same level).

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...