Kurital Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 28 minutes ago, Rabs said: Slash has quite an overdriven sound.. His guitars come with pickups that are hotter than your average Les Paul.. Also his amp is also dialed in to that high gain sound.. And then obviously theres some kind of fuzz or overdrive pedal he uses.. And yes I am going to post this video again.. Its so useful for LP players who dont use their knobs... So yes.. Possibly the tone knob is turned down too... Thanks, Rabs. I actually watched these two videos recently. They're great videos. As for the Slash pedal collection video, there are too many pedals there. So, it may take sometime for me to figure out the uses of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Kurital said: Thanks, Rabs. I actually watched these two videos recently. They're great videos. As for the Slash pedal collection video, there are too many pedals there. So, it may take sometime for me to figure out the uses of them. Yeah... Pedals, amps and pickups is a deep deep rabbit hole.. The thing is my best advice after all these years on here and discussing this sort if thing.. You are way better off spending that time not trying to sound like someone else but working out what sort of player you are. Its all part of the fun in the hobby though.. Getting new pedals, guitars and amps along the way and trying it all to get that sound thats in your head in to real life does take time but its what keeps you going sometimes. Edited November 20, 2023 by Rabs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurital Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 Just now, Rabs said: Yeah... Pedals, amps and pickups is a deep deep rabbit hole.. The thing is my best advice after all these years on here and discussing this sort if thing.. You are way better off spending that time not trying to sound like someone else but working out what sort of player you are. Its all part of the fun in the hobby though.. Getting new pedals, guitars and amps along the way and trying it all does take time but its what keeps you going sometimes. yeah, I know what you mean. Of course, considering the budget, I cannot, you know, try them all out. So, I posted that video, hope somebody can give me a framework, like the overall must-have combination to get that sounds, not the exact tone, instead a feeling of that ”howling" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurital Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Rabs said: Yeah... Pedals, amps and pickups is a deep deep rabbit hole.. The thing is my best advice after all these years on here and discussing this sort if thing.. You are way better off spending that time not trying to sound like someone else but working out what sort of player you are. Its all part of the fun in the hobby though.. Getting new pedals, guitars and amps along the way and trying it all does take time but its what keeps you going sometimes. At 02:38, and 03:00 in this video, that bending effect, I do not think this is what I can do with only my guitar and amp without any pedal. So, my question is try to figure out what pedals can make that sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Kurital said: At 02:38, and 03:00 in this video, that bending effect, I do not think this is what I can do with only my guitar and amp without any pedal. So, my question is try to figure out what pedals can make that sound. Is that not just a whammy bar? He does use them on occasion. I just saw another version of Slash doing it live and he just bends the note normally... As for which specific pedals hes using im not sure.. Maybe the octave fuzz, or just a booster.. Edited November 20, 2023 by Rabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 20 minutes ago, Kurital said: At 02:38, and 03:00 in this video, that bending effect, I do not think this is what I can do with only my guitar and amp without any pedal. So, my question is try to figure out what pedals can make that sound. Well I have watched five different versions of that song now with two different guitarist and none of them do it live.. So I say he used a whammy bar for the effect in the studio and just leaves it out when he plays it live. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurital Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rabs said: Is that not just a whammy bar? He does use them on occasion. I just saw another version of Slash doing it live and he just bends the note normally... As for which specific pedals hes using im not sure.. Maybe the octave fuzz, or just a booster.. Yeah, Slash's version is totally different than DJ Ashba and Robin Finck. Although I love Slash and appreciate how he improvised on this song, I still prefer the formers. I have seen many covers and lives. It's not a whammy bar. My guess is that whether it's a delay, octave, chorus, or tremolo effect. Anyway, this is what I comes to after listening, I had no pedals, so I could not try by myself, at least for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurital Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rabs said: Well I have watched five different versions of that song now with two different guitarist and none of them do it live.. So I say he used a whammy bar for the effect in the studio and just leaves it out when he plays it live. Thank you so much for helping me check it out. Could you please watch this video here, it seems that he makes the similar effect in the first bending note, I cannot say it is the same as the album, but to me, it is quite similar: The "watery" sound, seems like a chorus pedal, but anyway, I'm not sure.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Hes just playing two notes at once.. On the neck pickup probably with the tone turned down a bit.. I dont think that part is an effect but a playing technique... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kurital Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rabs said: 18:30 in Thanks for the videos! I know there are some tutorial videos. I just did not watch them, thought I would like to try them out by hearing🤣. I think that's the best way to try to figure out what the players are playing..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurital Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Rabs said: Guess I have a lot of work to do and practice, man, it's hard but it will be fun, I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Kurital said: Guess I have a lot of work to do and practice, man, it's hard but it will be fun, I guess Yup.. All part of the experience.. 🙂 By the way I am a big Slash fan too.. One of the reasons I play guitar and why I bought this. Id love a Slash LP but he likes fat necks and thats one thing that is a no go for me. So I have a LP Classic which is my main LP and a Slash SL5. These old Classics have really hot pickups in them so I get that sound pretty easy. Edited November 20, 2023 by Rabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurital Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 Just now, Rabs said: Yup.. All part of the experience.. 🙂 By the way I am a big Slash fan too.. One of the reasons I play guitar and why I bought this. Id love a Slash LP but he likes fat necks and thats one thing that is a no go for me. So I have a LP Classic which is my main LP and a Slash SL5 That looks cool, man. Yeah, we all get inspired by Slash, don't we? When I was like 12 or 13, I watched GNR 92 in Tokyo, which totally blew me away. The guitar playing was impressive, totally different from what I heard before. For years to come, before I have my first guitar, I moved on to listen to Nirvana, the grunge style, you know, so, after I get my first guitar, I directly went to play like Smells like teen spirit, come as you are, drain you, etc. So, in a way, I was not actually practicing any solo skills (we all know what Kurt did with his guitar and music). Although I had my guitar for like 10 years, I never really took many time to practice it, I had to admit, I was playing my PS4 for hours and hours,. Now I got my new Slash LP, part of the reason is that I want to practice it now, I want to play now. I don't care if I'm going to a gig or play in front of ppl, I just want to play what I love by myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Kurital said: That looks cool, man. Yeah, we all get inspired by Slash, don't we? When I was like 12 or 13, I watched GNR 92 in Tokyo, which totally blew me away. The guitar playing was impressive, totally different from what I heard before. For years to come, before I have my first guitar, I moved on to listen to Nirvana, the grunge style, you know, so, after I get my first guitar, I directly went to play like Smells like teen spirit, come as you are, drain you, etc. So, in a way, I was not actually practicing any solo skills (we all know what Kurt did with his guitar and music). Although I had my guitar for like 10 years, I never really took many time to practice it, I had to admit, I was playing my PS4 for hours and hours,. Now I got my new Slash LP, part of the reason is that I want to practice it now, I want to play now. I don't care if I'm going to a gig or play in front of ppl, I just want to play what I love by myself. We have all been there.. I also probably spent a good ten years or so when I was concentrating on work and hardly played at all.. I could play ok and do some lead but didnt really know what I was doing at all.. It was only when I came on here I started learning about pentatonics and technical stuff to do with guitars when I actually started getting better.. And like you I am a by ear player mainly but still these vids help when you get stuck. And this is also why I say its better to experiment and find your own sound. Most of us have a limited time and budget for guitar which means we can never learn everything we want.. But thats cool, as you say most of us play for the love of playing.. Gigging is cool but most of us dont have time to fit that in or maybe even want too... Its all good there are no rules here. Do what makes you happy. End of. Edited November 20, 2023 by Rabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurital Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Rabs said: We have all been there.. I also probably spent a good ten years or so when I was concentrating on work and hardly played at all.. I could play ok and do some lead but didnt really know what I was doing at all.. It was only when I came on here I started learning about pentatonics and technical stuff to do with guitars.. And like you I am a by ear player mainly but still these vids help when you get stuck. And this is also why I say its better to experiment and find your own sound. Most of us have a limited time and budget for guitar which means we can never learn everything we want.. But thats cool, as you say most of us play for the love of playing.. Gigging is cool but most of us dont have time to fit that in or maybe even want too... Its all good there are no rules here. Do what makes you happy. End of. It's really nice to have such a conversation with you! I learned a lot. Thanks for the time and patience. Yeah, I quoted a line from Steve Vai, "the only thing that's holding you back is your mind". Thanks again, pal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Kurital said: It's really nice to have such a conversation with you! I learned a lot. Thanks for the time and patience. Yeah, I quoted a line from Steve Vai, "the only thing that's holding you back is your mind". Thanks again, pal. No worries.. That is why we are here after all.. Happy playing man.. That is a nice guitar you have for sure.. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Actually, Slash uses very little gain (3?) for his lead tone. Instead, he drives the amp. Also, his pickup height is quite low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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