Gibson L-00 murphy lab (finish issue)

[santacruz3600]

I bought a Murphy lab L-00 (light aging) in September 2023, Gibson may be rushing these out, the lacquer may not be totally dry. Mine has developed an imprint in the lacquer from the case lid nylon strap.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 6, 2023 by santacruz3600

[rct]

That just sucks.  Send it back.

rct

[62burst]

17 hours ago, santacruz3600 said:

I bought a Murphy lab L-00 (light aging) . . . Mine has developed an imprint in the lacquer from the case lid nylon strap.

Oh, the irony. 

Agree that they may be getting them out the door too soon.  Lacquer takes a long time to get to the point where it's not reactive to things like that.

Funny that the case lid strap damage happened to the back of the guitar. Do you put it in the case face down? 

 

Edited December 6, 2023 by 62burst

[egoidealmusic]

Early on when I'd gotten my 50s J-45 I accidentally left a tuner on the headstock overnight and the pad had a crosscheck pattern.  Next morning I take it off and the pattern remained on the headstock.  As noted, the nitro was still apparently a bit soft.  A few months later or so and it was completely gone--no signs whatsoever.  Wonder if this would likewise fade out over time.

 

You could try to return it but I'm guessing Gibson will say user error on this.  Bummer though!

[santacruz3600]

7 hours ago, 62burst said:

Oh, the irony. 

Agree that they may be getting them out the door too soon.  Lacquer takes a long time to get to the point where it's not reactive to things like that.

Funny that the case lid strap damage happened to the back of the guitar. Do you put it in the case face down? 

 

Haha, My friend made fun of me when I bought my first relic’d guitar, he said you’ll probably still care if it gets scratched or dinged.

The lacquer impression is on the top (lower right corner) where that nylon strap folds in, the back doesn’t have binding.

Edited December 7, 2023 by santacruz3600

[santacruz3600]

6 hours ago, egoidealmusic said:

Early on when I'd gotten my 50s J-45 I accidentally left a tuner on the headstock overnight and the pad had a crosscheck pattern.  Next morning I take it off and the pattern remained on the headstock.  As noted, the nitro was still apparently a bit soft.  A few months later or so and it was completely gone--no signs whatsoever.  Wonder if this would likewise fade out over time.

 

You could try to return it but I'm guessing Gibson will say user error on this.  Bummer though!

Yeah, I had a similar experience with an EVH wolfgang, sitting it on a stand & it left marks, they did fade, not completely but mostly.
If this Gibson did self repair itself I would consider it a miracle.

If they tried to say it was user error, the error would be keeping it in the case.

Edited December 7, 2023 by santacruz3600

[JuanCarlosVejar]

Maybe email Gibson with these photos attached and see what they have to say about it .

Gibson may have thought of 1,000 ways to test that finish … but users in the real world encounter scenarios that Gibson may not have thought about .

I once had Gibson finish one of my guitars in a completely different color than what I ordered, They took it back and refinished it in the correct color .

 

JC

[BluesKing777]

On 12/6/2023 at 3:53 PM, santacruz3600 said:

I bought a Murphy lab L-00 (light aging) in September 2023, Gibson may be rushing these out, the lacquer may not be totally dry. Mine has developed an imprint in the lacquer from the case lid nylon strap.

 

 

 

 

 

So you bought the ‘aged’ model but.....ha ha...don’t want any marks on it?

It is now a bit more ‘aged’.

 

BluesKing777.

 

 

[santacruz3600]

2 minutes ago, BluesKing777 said:

 

So you bought the ‘aged’ model but.....ha ha...don’t want any marks on it?

It is now a bit more ‘aged’.

 

BluesKing777.

 

 

Haha I’m sure i’ll get a lot of comments like yours as I should expect. I am already attached to the guitar so I don’t really want to send it back, but it was still a surprise since it wasn’t caused from anything I did.

[santacruz3600]

35 minutes ago, JuanCarlosVejar said:

Maybe email Gibson with these photos attached and see what they have to say about it .

Gibson may have thought of 1,000 ways to test that finish … but users in the real world encounter scenarios that Gibson may not have thought about .

I once had Gibson finish one of my guitars in a completely different color than what I ordered, They took it back and refinished it in the correct color .

 

JC

I have emailed them, we’ll see how it goes.

[gibsonchiq]

how do you know that its not just part of the murphy labs light aging?

[BluesKing777]

51 minutes ago, santacruz3600 said:

Haha I’m sure i’ll get a lot of comments like yours as I should expect. I am already attached to the guitar so I don’t really want to send it back, but it was still a surprise since it wasn’t caused from anything I did.

 

Well, if you want to sell it and the buyer says: ‘What’s that?’ to your new mark - you can say Murphy did it! 😃

For now though, it might pay to drape a towel or t-shirt over a guitar stand and leave the guitar out? Dry a bit....

 

BluesKing777.

P.S. My tuxedo Waterloo has had a hiding since the L-00 Murph was released, let me tell ya.

 

 

[santacruz3600]

15 hours ago, gibsonchiq said:

how do you know that its not just part of the murphy labs light aging?

It’s not. Gibson said they’d take care of it.

Edited December 7, 2023 by santacruz3600

[santacruz3600]

17 hours ago, BluesKing777 said:

 

Well, if you want to sell it and the buyer says: ‘What’s that?’ to your new mark - you can say Murphy did it! 😃

For now though, it might pay to drape a towel or t-shirt over a guitar stand and leave the guitar out? Dry a bit....

 

BluesKing777.

P.S. My tuxedo Waterloo has had a hiding since the L-00 Murph was released, let me tell ya.

 

 

Good advice, I’ve already put a cloth in the spot.

Edited December 8, 2023 by santacruz3600

[BluesKing777]

1 hour ago, santacruz3600 said:

Good advise, I’ve already put a cloth in the spot.

 

Cool.

How are you finding the setup of the guitar off the rack? Playability? Tone?

Full report! New model Gibson acoustics are a rare thing.

 

BluesKing777.

 

[santacruz3600]

18 hours ago, BluesKing777 said:

 

Cool.

How are you finding the setup of the guitar off the rack? Playability? Tone?

Full report! New model Gibson acoustics are a rare thing.

 

BluesKing777.

 

I love it! the set up was perfect out of box, tone is amazing, but I know tone has so much to do with the player especially with acoustic. The neck is good to me, but maybe if it was a hair thinner & it would work better with capo’s & gripping around the neck using thumb as I often do, but I get away with it. The tuning machines are not the most performance friendly, you can loosen them a half turn before it will affect pitch, now I have not experimented with number of string windings or anything, I have not changed strings on it & have not asked Gibson about this yet, but it does stay in tune well.

[BluesKing777]

4 hours ago, santacruz3600 said:

I love it! the set up was perfect out of box, tone is amazing, but I know tone has so much to do with the player especially with acoustic. The neck is good to me, but maybe if it was a hair thinner & it would work better with capo’s & gripping around the neck using thumb as I often do, but I get away with it. The tuning machines are not the most performance friendly, you can loosen them a half turn before it will affect pitch, now I have not experimented with number of string windings or anything, I have not changed strings on it & have not asked Gibson about this yet, but it does stay in tune well.

 

All good then....keep it, ignore the mark, dry it a while and get the tuners upgraded! (luck of the draw quality but I have the really nice Gotoh Kluson style tuners on my old 37 - someone had araldited the old ones).

A shop here has the new one listed ‘in advance’ - when it turns up, I will try it out.......then buy a used one from someone that bought online and doesn’t like the neck!😆

Would I change the white guard? I know it is history for the white on black early 32-33 and all that but there is a much despised team (that always beats mine) with black and white jumpers! What if I was mistaken for a fan? Phhh! But... I like the old firestripes but not so much the modern ones.....maybe no guard!

Anyway, enjoy your new guitar!

Out comes my old 37 L-0 next.

 

BluesKing777.

 

 

Edited December 8, 2023 by BluesKing777

[santacruz3600]

On 12/8/2023 at 3:35 PM, BluesKing777 said:

 

All good then....keep it, ignore the mark, dry it a while and get the tuners upgraded! (luck of the draw quality but I have the really nice Gotoh Kluson style tuners on my old 37 - someone had araldited the old ones).

A shop here has the new one listed ‘in advance’ - when it turns up, I will try it out.......then buy a used one from someone that bought online and doesn’t like the neck!😆

Would I change the white guard? I know it is history for the white on black early 32-33 and all that but there is a much despised team (that always beats mine) with black and white jumpers! What if I was mistaken for a fan? Phhh! But... I like the old firestripes but not so much the modern ones.....maybe no guard!

Anyway, enjoy your new guitar!

Out comes my old 37 L-0 next.

 

BluesKing777.

 

 

Like this?

Edited December 28, 2023 by santacruz3600

[BluesKing777]

Nope!

My poor ole 1937 L-0 may have looked like the black one above ...once....I can see black near the edges of the pickguard.....but the whole thing was ...err...ruined, is the only word. Finish stripped. Etc.

My luthier saved it to a playable guitar by...neck set, new fretboard, new bridge, new tuners, nut, saddle...etc, etc, etc..

It needs a few tweaks at the moment but he has been incredibly busy......4 months to fix my Martin binding, so far.

 

BluesKing777.