clarkuss Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 You'll get no complaints from a dead chicken... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Only thing I expect from food is that it taste good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icantbuyafender Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Awesome... I have to say' date=' I've seen worse...[/quote'] yeah, I'm real afraid to open up my newly acquired gold top. im not keen on finding a sh!tty 3/4 wide neck tenon. hell... Id take a solid bolt on over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak show Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 What you have stumbled upon is not a quality issue; you've exposed the reason why a Gibson is a Gibson and an Epiphone... isn't. Good point, that pretty much says it all. Oh, by the way. Who is the chick in "Red 333"'s avatar? A phone number would also be nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 333 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Oh' date=' by the way. Who is the chick in "Red 333"'s avatar? A phone number would also be nice... [/quote'] That is the fantastically talented, criminally underated, (and also quite lovely) Aimee Mann and her Gibson J45. I'm trying to find a good picture of her with her battered '54 Gibson J160E. She also plays an Epiphone Revolution Casino. My kinda girl. Red 333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinster Posted May 14, 2009 Author Share Posted May 14, 2009 Good point' date=' that pretty much says it all. Oh, by the way. Who is the chick in "Red 333"'s avatar? A phone number would also be nice... [/quote'] Til Tuesday Singer :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinster Posted May 14, 2009 Author Share Posted May 14, 2009 Hi Sinster' date=' Thanks for the post and the images. I'm sorry to hear that you're unhappy with your instrument. Please post up an image of the back of the headstock showing serial number and a copy of your receipt, I'll look into this issue personally and resolve it to your satisfaction. Thanks again. Epiphone[/quote'] I'm not unhappy with the instrument. At first I was. Now I couldn't be more happy with the instrument. After talking to a few places here in MA that are authorize dealers. I was informed that I would have been hard press to get warranty because the guitar plays well, tr can be adjust, intonates like it should, etc. . That visual flaws wouldn't qualify under warranty. The guitar plays very well so I could understand why. I decided to keep it and get over the "Tenon" flaw. I changed out the pickups and now it's the guitar I pick up the most. I really don't want to lose the mojo out of it by sending it to warranty. Call me superstitious if you want. That's the way I feel. Don't get me wrong if I do have a issue with the "tenon" I will not have an issue with sending it off for warranty. Thank you for offering I appreciate it. Those who are saying what do I expect from a "Lower Costing" Les Paul. I expect quality.. Not some excuse well it's made in China. I don't care where it's made. Epiphone has a Q.C. department. To say a 2000+ guitar vs. a 500+ guitar I should expect crap for the 500+ is ridiculous. I can get a sub 300.00 Agile that looks better than my custom ... and I'm pretty sure Epiphone has great Q.C., like everything else a few slip by like mine. Like I mention early in one of my post, this won't deter me from purchasing another Epiphone or even recommend a Epiphone. Mine is EE0804XXXX Here she is after the pup change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reborn08 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 oh dear very sloppy work there strange though you hardly ever see work like this slipping through the quality control net, but back it will have to go ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangbang Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Someone is smoking lots of opium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedgeSG Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 On a lighter note, and in reference to pit sniffing; I'll add this... Just bought a new solid deodorant, instructions printed on the tube read: "Remove protective cap - push up bottom" Right now I'm having trouble walking but my farts smell really nice. Wedgie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ned_predgrupa Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 well, I think both sides are right in a way. Ofcourse, Ihave never said that I expect Gibson quality on Epiphone. When I made this purchase I was aware that it's not made of "premium" wood as Gibson would be, I knew electronics were cheaper, pu's are cheaper, hardware is cheaper, finish is cheaper (smaller imperfections are visible on my guitar). Actualy, the thing is that we are talking about quality control that Epi was braging with. My point is that, if an employee (chinese or any other) is too lasy to make a simple blowing off with his mouth (3 sec waste of time aprox.), should I expect him to be too lazy to "add just a little bit more of solder on pots"? I'm shure you get what I'm saying. My problem is that I really like the equipment that I buy and that's why I usually do a very detailed research before I make any bigger purchase (yeah, 800$ is bigger purchase for me). Therefore, once I buy it, I like to believe that I made a good choice, and things like these slightly mess this up. I'll emphasise once again, it's most important to have guitar that sounds and feels good to you, but we all still want our axes to be as neat as possible.... peace...ned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthemBassMan Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 It is an Epiphone LP. This is a pic of the neck "tenon" of my '02 Epi LP standard Plus. Coincidence? I think not! And those "splotches" in the p/u cavity' date=' were there when it was BRAND NEW! The only reasons I didn't complain are, because A.) it's an Epi, so i wasn't expecting it to be of high quality, and B.) the actual advertised price was $870.00, but I only paid $500.00 w/case, so I guess it was a good deal at the time.[/quote'] -I'll have to recheck the neck joint on my '02 Classic, but those splotches you see are nothing more than some buffing compound splatters. Pretty much every guitar I've ever owned had a little bit here or there in a cavity. But the neck joint does look like it has a bit too much of a gap along the one side. L8R, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doth Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 It is strange this thread. I think Epi is doing a good thing by doing there best to take care of the situation. But truth be told, you can't say it is a 3/4 joint, when you are only seeing the tail end of the tenon. By the way, with strong wood glue, 3/4 would get the job done. Ever think it might have been chamfered just to make it fit easier, and the rest is a full fit? I don't know. I know if it plays well, and you are happy with it, put the guts back in and get the Led out! Prior to getting smart and getting a double degree, I worked in construction. In construction, tools were an important part of what you did, but they didn't build the house. If you liked how they felt in your hand, how they did the job, then they were fine. I guess that could be applied to your guitar. The real talent in building the house was in your hands and mind. That said, I am also a perfectionist, and I can understand your ire with that quality. Call Epi, and I am sure they will make it right, or you still have a nice playing tool! I have shopped at the same shop for 20 years now. I make them pull everything apart and give it a proper set up before I agree to buy, but I think they agree to that only because they know I will eventually buy. Let us know how it works out. Doth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar232007 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 -I'll have to recheck the neck joint on my '02 Classic' date=' but those splotches you see are nothing more than some buffing compound splatters. Pretty much every guitar I've ever owned had a little bit here or there in a cavity. But the neck joint does look like it has a bit too much of a gap along the one side. L8R, Matt[/quote']The point of all this, isn't just about the gaps, it's about the "quality" of the neck tenon, and (more importantly) the overall quality of the guitars themselves. In other words, IMO, the quality of the tenon on my guitar is very sloppy, and if you look closely, you can actually see that it is in fact made up of two pieces. And as far as the buffing compound in the p/u cavities goes, that's not really a big deal to me. The problem I have is their (Epiphone), almost complete lack of attention to detail. And, yes, I know Epis aren't Gibsons, but that's no excuse for the shotty workmanship, considering that the Epiphone factories are ran by Gibson, and that most if not all of the guitars, are "inspected" by Gibson USA, before they go to market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 If you scroll down on the Epi home page, you will find a link to Epiphone Inspection Stateside Process complete with a description of what they do and pictures of it being done. It's an interesting read. If the electronics work as advertised, I don't think that they pull off the plates or pickups. If there is a problem, they have up to 5 minutes to solder a wire or replace a part, otherwise the guitar goes to the repair shop for more intense troubleshooting. If there is a finish flaw visible under inspection, the guitar is rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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