Jguitar Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Hi All, new guy here, I have a few gibsons in my collection and I recenlty picked up a archtop but I cant find out which model it is from anywhere I hope you can help me Serial Number is 017160614 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Nothing, or at least very little, can be determined from the serial number alone. Also, the 9-digit serial number you posted is not typical of any standard Gibson format. Detailed photos will be required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jguitar Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 Nothing, or at least very little, can be determined from the serial number alone. Also, the 9-digit serial number you posted is not typical of any standard Gibson format. Detailed photos will be required. Hi and thanks, I will try and upload some pics but I think they are too big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jguitar Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 Hi and thanks, I will try and upload some pics but I think they are too big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BigKahune Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 . A custom ES (336?) with Bigsby. How about an overhead shot with no angle along with shots of the headstock front and back. Here's your pic - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jguitar Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 thanks do you think its a es 356 its a thine line I sort of worked that out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BigKahune Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 . With the jack on the top, maybe 355. Can't see in the long shot pics - does it have nibs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jguitar Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 this the serial number and it comes up with made in nashvile 2006 Serial Number is 017160614 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 . As Larry wrote - that serial# has too many numbers for a 2006 which should be 8 numbers in this format: YDDDYRRR - http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Support/SerialNumberSearch/ That's why I'm asking for better pics - close up of the headstock front an back. nibs - the ends of the metal frets are covered by the binding on Gibson electrics - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jguitar Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 I have taken a few more pics I will post them, I see what you mean or I have bought a very convincing copy I hope not I would be gutted Your guitar was made at the Nashville Plant, TN, USA June 20th, 2006 Production Number: 314 http://guitardaterproject.org/gibson.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jguitar Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 http://http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/numnum6/SouthLanarkshire-20110905-00018.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jguitar Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 <a href="http://s1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/numnum6/?action=view¤t=SouthLanarkshire-20110905-00019.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x393/numnum6/SouthLanarkshire-20110905-00019.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jguitar Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 NOTE - Gibson USA goes to a 9 digit serial number in early July 2005.. The sixth number is now a batch number- batch 0 starts at the beginning of the day, and once we stamp 699, the batch number will change to 1. The first 5 numbers remain the same, the last 3 numbers will remain the same. The only difference is the addition of this batch indicator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jguitar Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 I really appreciate all your help, as I said I have a few gibsons and this would have completed my collection. I will also contact gibson directly Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 . Even though your serial# (apparently) checks out, a real serial# could have been put on a fake Gibson. This happens often. I hate to tell you, that pic of your fretboard doesn't show nibs - so I would very suspicious of this guitar being a genuine Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jguitar Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 . Even though your serial# (apparently) checks out, a real serial# could have been put on a fake Gibson. I hate to tell you, that pic of your fretboard doesn't show nibs - so I would very suspicious of this guitar being a genuine Gibson. I know I have been looking at that, what I did read was that some custom sometimes are like this or maybe been re fretted, I checked my custom LP and my heart sank. But it its feels like the real deal cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny W. Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 From what I can see in the photos, neither the headstock nor the pickguard look like they were made by Gibson. The points on the headstock inlay should almost touch the truss rod cover--maybe 1/4" spacing. Also, the fretboard looks like rosewood, which typically would not be used with that inlay. Better photos would help. Danny W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 . A refret is a possibility, but highly doubtful on a 2006 (if that year is correct). A look at the front of the headstock might further confirm a fake as well as a look at the bridge posts - on a fake they're generally larger than a genuine Gibson and sometimes have a screwdriver slot in the top. I also think that the tuner keys were the wrong type for what this model looks like. Some other members might be able to chime in on this for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jguitar Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 From what I can see in the photos, neither the headstock nor the pickguard look like they were made by Gibson. The points on the headstock inlay should almost touch the truss rod cover--maybe 1/4" spacing. Also, the fretboard looks like rosewood, which typically would not be used with that inlay. Better photos would help. Danny W. I see what you mean I checked this against my LP and it is different. I tell you something if this is a fake its the best I have ever came across. I have been playing for years and this looks the biz. But I am starting to get that bad feeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny W. Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I see what you mean I checked this against my LP and it is different. I tell you something if this is a fake its the best I have ever came across. I have been playing for years and this looks the biz. But I am starting to get that bad feeling Add it up--has multiple top binding, inlay and top jack like an ES-355, but a rosewood fretboard, unbound pickguard with no threaded rod, no nibs and incorrect headstock dimensions. What conclusion would you draw from all that? Danny W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Unfortunately at this point, there's more to indicate that it is a copy rather than genuine. If you have any return options on this guitar, do it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamBooka Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Ok.. take this for what it cost you but from the very first pics I thought .. awwww.. fake :( Not much in the subsequent posts has changed my mind. I am not an expert so forgive me if I am wrong. At this point I would take detailed photos and send them with the serial number to gibson. If you can get a mirror inside the sound hole check the pots as well. Chinese Gipsons usually skimp on the innards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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