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#1 User is offline   espasonico 

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 03:08 PM

Iīm planning on buying an AJ I tried at a store. I liked the sound of the guitar very much but I was worried about the intonation issues on the B string. The luthier at the shop told me that he would compensated the saddle for the B string and I got quite surprised because I didnīt realise that this guitar doesnīt come with a compensated saddle.

How many of you are worried about non-compensated saddles and the intonation issues that comes with them ?

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 03:48 PM

Welcome to the Forum espasonico! I have a True Vintage SJ that did not have a compensated saddle when I bought it new. It was bone, though. I changed it out, for the reasons you mentioned above, with a bone compensated saddle from Bob Colosi. No more intonation issues!

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 04:17 PM

If you makes sure you get all repair work done before you buy it, it shouldn't affect you warranty and when their is ever anything wrong, you can take it back to the shop. Sounds like the best idea!
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Posted 22 January 2011 - 05:12 PM

Compensating a saddle is a fairly simple thing to do for a guitar tech / luthier. If you take your guitar for a setup and ask them to be sure to intonate the B string, it shouldn't cost you anything more as it is part of the setup. A little touch with a dremel tool, some buffing and you're done. :)
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Posted 22 January 2011 - 07:13 PM

Itīs surprising that so many "expensive" guitars donīt come with a compensated saddle. I can understand it when itīs a recreation of a vintage instrument but...

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 07:26 PM

View Postespasonico, on 22 January 2011 - 07:13 PM, said:

Itīs surprising that so many "expensive" guitars donīt come with a compensated saddle. I can understand it when itīs a recreation of a vintage instrument but...

putting a compesated saddle does not effect the warranty at all.

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 01:41 AM

Very few Gibsons must come with compensated saddles, in fact I personally have never seen one! With the scale length well less than 25" it's easier to get away with a straight saddle than on Martins with a 25.5" scale.

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 07:22 AM

View Postbrians356, on 23 January 2011 - 01:41 AM, said:

Very few Gibsons must come with compensated saddles, in fact I personally have never seen one! With the scale length well less than 25" it's easier to get away with a straight saddle than on Martins with a 25.5" scale.

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I think the AJ is one of the few with a 25.5" scale. Is that correct?

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 09:54 AM

View Postbrians356, on 23 January 2011 - 01:41 AM, said:

Very few Gibsons must come with compensated saddles, in fact I personally have never seen one!


Welp, now you can take a look - - Here's my SJ-200, came straight from Montana with a compensated tusq saddle. I had Colosi copy it in bone and add bone pins -

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But as Brians356 indicated, some saddles come from the factory compensated and some don't. If you're having trouble with intonation and want a compensated saddle, it's not an expensive change to make.
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Posted 23 January 2011 - 02:22 PM

View PostBigKahune, on 23 January 2011 - 09:54 AM, said:

Welp, now you can take a look - - Here's my SJ-200, came straight from Montana with a compensated tusq saddle. I had Colosi copy it in bone and add bone pins -

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But as Brians356 indicated, some saddles come from the factory compensated and some don't. If you're having trouble with intonation and want a compensated saddle, it's not an expensive change to make.


Collosi's compensated bone saddles are beautifully crafted. I love the soft curve of the compensation.
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Posted 23 January 2011 - 09:44 PM

View Postlarryp58, on 22 January 2011 - 03:48 PM, said:

Welcome to the Forum espasonico! I have a True Vintage SJ that did not have a compensated saddle when I bought it new. It was bone, though. I changed it out, for the reasons you mentioned above, with a bone compensated saddle from Bob Colosi. No more intonation issues!


Did you send yours for him to "copy" ?

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 04:15 PM

I should have mentioned, I don't own any Gibson acoustic newer than 1959, so while I haven't noticed any Gibsons with compensated saddles, they are obviously a modern option. All the old Gibsons I have been around or owned came with straight saddles, and most break on the front edge (top of saddle sloped upward from back to front) as well.

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