aristophanes1 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 hello to everybody ihave a gibson sg with serial no.92180319 . iwander if my guitar is original or fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vega1 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 hello to everybody ihave a gibson sg with serial no.92180319 . iwander if my guitar is original or fake. Well, I was about to respond that the toggle switch was in the wrong place and the headstock doesn't look quite right (not sure what the sticker says?). However, doing some highly scientific research (I googled it) I see a there are some 1990 SG Standard models with the toggle in that position and the jack on the side, in candy apple red even. In other words I'm no help at all. I'm sure someone smarter than me will be able to help here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 . Welcome. Post some GOOD pics - good size - good focus - no angles - well lit - no cut off parts. One straight overhead shot of the whole guitar, a shot of the front of the headstock, and a shot of the back of the headstock that includes the top end of the neck area behind the nut. The headstock looks legit, but what's the stamp/logo on the back side of the headstock at the bottom? Can't see much of the body with that terrible angle and lighting. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtim Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Does not say made in USA on back of headstock, and has a strange sticker on it plus it looks like someone changed out the tuners also as it appears to have lines where the old ones used to be. I believe it is fake, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristophanes1 Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Does not say made in USA on back of headstock, and has a strange sticker on it plus it looks like someone changed out the tuners also as it appears to have lines where the old ones used to be. I believe it is fake, Tim there is made in usa on back of headstock,the picture quality it is no so good. the sticker it is from the local guitar store. i atached some new pictures with high quality after the service. thanx tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vega1 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 there is made in usa on back of headstock,the picture quality it is no so good. the sticker it is from the local guitar store. i atached some new pictures with high quality after the service. thanx tim I don't know man. I still don't see "made in USA" on the headstock, picture quality looks good enough to see it if it was there. Also the headstock inlays look a little wonky. I'm no expert though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtim Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I agree with the previous posting as the quality is good enough to see that made in USA stamping is not there and the "i" is not dotted on the headstock inlay and it still looks as if someone changed out the tuners. I would take the back cover off of the guitar and take a look inside at the volume and tone pots too. Also you say the sticker is from the local music store, so what did you have to pay for it? I wish I could say it was real but it does not look like a real one so far, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 . Dotted 'i' is no way to tell anything. Sometimes the dot touches the 'G', sometimes the dot floats free, sometimes there's no dot. The headstock and tuners look fine to me. Here's a 1990 SG - no dot. No one can see the "Made in USA" stamp, and that's definitely a concern. Here's a 1991 - . . . . . . . . . . (Post better pics!!!). I can't see the rest of the guitar well enough to make a call on it. Post better pics! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtim Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Well I saw the same one on ebay......So gibson didn't dot all their "i"'s. I would still open the back of it and look at the electronis, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristophanes1 Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 . Dotted 'i' is no way to tell anything. Sometimes the dot touches the 'G', sometimes the dot floats free, sometimes there's no dot. The headstock and tuners look fine to me. Here's a 1990 SG - no dot. No one can see the "Made in USA" stamp, and that's definitely a concern. Here's a 1991 - . . . . . . . . . . (Post better pics!!!). I can't see the rest of the guitar well enough to make a call on it. Post better pics! . i will post some new pictures next week. thanx everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Well I saw the same one on ebay......So gibson did dot all their "i"'s. I would still open the back of it and look at the electronis, Tim With the apparently missing "Made in USA" stamp - that's a good suggestion. As far as the "dot" goes, through the years that darn thing has been all over the map and sometimes missing - here's a good look - http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/gibson-les-pauls/72246-gibson-headstock-logos.html . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sellen Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Gibson sg had that toggle switch placement up to 85-86-87 im not sure. If it,s real i would have guessed it was a early 80s model. Maybe the first number is a 8 not a 9, again i haven't seen a 90's sg with that toggle placement but i can be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Gibson sg had that toggle switch placement up to 85-86-87 im not sure. If it,s real i would have guessed it was a early 80s model. Maybe the first number is a 8 not a 9, again i haven't seen a 90's sg with that toggle placement but i can be wrong. Both of the following from fleaBay - 1990 SG - 1991 SG - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 http://www.gbase.com/gear/gibson-sg-standard-1991-candy-apple-red Looks legit, to me...based on the model pictured in the above link. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 http://www.gbase.com/gear/gibson-sg-standard-1991-candy-apple-red Looks legit, to me...based on the model pictured in the above link. CB That's one of the fleaBay guitars I've been referencing - http://www.ebay.com/itm/1991-Gibson-SG-Standard-Rare-Candy-Apple-Red-w-case-/260876679456?pt=Guitar&hash=item3cbd763920#ht_500wt_1180 . . . B) . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaygl Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 A bandmate of mine had the exact SG back in the day. Candy Apple red and toggle in that position...It looks like a legit early 90's model to me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickey67vet Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I would add not all SG's say made in the USA, yes it was to deter fakes being made. Everything else looks okay to me. I would reference A.R. Duchossoir's book on Gibson Guitar Identification. He goes into more detail on the , the Made in the USA" usage, headstock and Gibson logo. Another way to tell is pull the little cover that say's SG and the truss rod should have a hex nut profile. If it is anything different like a phillips screw head then you just got screwed. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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