BluesKing777
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Nice trade move - I also would like to know what went....in case it is a Gibson? I suspect not....
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Cool clip, thanks JCV!
Glad I have my 2005 Dove cherry! While not a 'sig' model, someone signed it! (I wonder if they survived that idea?)
Either way, it is mine (and it was cheaper than without the writing!). It is a strange beast - heavily worn in some body areas but the neck is fairly 'untouched'. Maybe they played open G over and over and over?
And some mystery for you - The writing in the lower right of the last photo says:
One LOVE !!!
then next row : a Ban the bomb/peace sign
next row is a hand drawn banner with: INCOGNITO written in it
under that banner to the right is a word that is blurry - could be 'blues'. But that might just be my imagination!
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Seriously, if it hurts, don’t do it!
Keep looking and playing other models.
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Yes, congratulations PB!
I am fortunate to live close to one of the best luthiers in the country - if I go there in the middle of the day, the traffic is usually pretty good - fairly useless later on. But the bone nut, saddle and setup he just did for my 2002 J50 is just worth any painful drive! It is all just so...perfect. Playability Plus! And he does all that work while on the phone to other customers. He can smell a bad nut height from across the room, when you walk in the door!
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I always ask: “What’s the best you can do on this...?”
Some people want to play silly games but generally most guitar sellers want to.....sell it.
I have Apple TV and watched the OP video again on TV and O have to agree PB - both guitars were a bit flat. The trouble with all these videos is that the guitars are brand new unplayed out of a box and probably need a bit of strumming to get some character. Buying a loved used older model is easier to hear its ‘truth’. Or...those new 2 are dudleys.😧
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1 hour ago, PatriotsBiker said:
I didn't intend to buy one. I did, though. Uneducated consumer on the intricacies of guitar tone combined with a sales manager with a limited post-holiday inventory - and post-holiday budget. It was made to cut through the live band mix, though. I will give him that much. He's also the one who told me there is never a reason to not use a humidifier. The guy that replaced him is a great dude.
Yeah, getting too long in the tooth to handle difficult guitars.
We have all had that same sales manager, don't you worry!
Because of them, we become pedantic and specific - that same sales manager's mortal enemy....reeling off a number of neck figures and wood details that we learned....here!😁😁😁
When I bought the Taylor 717, I went to one shop closest to me with the intention of trying the guitar and buying at a much cheaper shop I go to. I knew all the details from the blurbs and specs and was very interested. I asked for the guitar in the acoustic room - it was hanging high - and I played about 3 little things and did the absolute worst thing a 'mark' or 'sucker' could do - I gasped out something like -"Aw, I LOVE this neck!!" And the salesman was a grinning. Well, I tricked him by asking him how much it was going for...😲 He went off and jangled cash registers and computer for ages and he came back with a figure that really surprised me. I said: "Take it!" But when we took it to the main counter, the Boss was there and reminded us that it was a 25% OFF Easter Saturday Sale. I asked if that was 20% off the price agreed already and he reluctantly said OK. I got that 717 way cheap!!! They all wave to me if I go to buy strings there, so I suppose their markup was huge. (A friend played mine and desperately wanted one and the shop he went to wanted about $1200 more than mine!)
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10 hours ago, PatriotsBiker said:
Of COURSE you would't.
I should have said I would never buy anything screechy - AGAIN!
I was anticipating this year's new Taylor V class Builder's Edition releases for other models to get the 'compound carve neck' like the one on my 717, but no dice. Put that neck on a Grand Concert body and call it mine! Nope - the new Grand Concert Builder's Edition neck is quite scrawny in comparison. Wildwood : .86 - .89 for the new 912 while for the 717 they have we get .86 - .95!!!
But there is far more to a great neck than those numbers.....the shape goes from a slight V to a C. Looks like the neck on my model must have scared the punters and is only on the Grand Pacific builder's Edition models 717/517. (I should get my luthier to make a plaster cast of it.........for future reference 😎)
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The mission for the Taylor 717 was to have a slope shoulder dread with a more traditional tone than the normal Taylor thing, but with the new V bracing. I have said it before but I think it is far more Lowden like than a J45 slope shoulder. My 717 neck is way larger than normal Taylor fare. Could drag out the calipers and measure the difference but it is probably on Wildwood......
And I wouldn’t buy anything ‘screechy’.
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2 hours ago, PatriotsBiker said:
The redesigned era of the 614ce (2015-2018) is a beast of guitar. I thought switching it to the V-bracing took the character out of it. I bet it's easier to track with, though. I've only played my own, though, which is a 2015. I have played(test-driven) several 614ce v-bracing and was unimpressed.
I've test driven the 814 DLX and the 914 and have been very impressed. They project very well. I still had to go with a D-41 last October, though.
For the record, I have enjoyed test driving the Pacific Coast 517 and 717. the local Sam Ash has both AND both in builder's editions. It hurts to know this. No 618s, though. I am curious to try one, now. I agree with EuroAussie that they both sounded weak. (Tight was the word he used)
I have not played the Taylor 618e, but I bought the Taylor 717e V Class Grand Pacific Builder's Edition in Easter 2019. (torrefied sitka top/rosewood)
Taylor's reputation is for guitars that are 'sorted' - a high quality perfect build that leaves the factory with a setup and pickup system ready to play live immediately. While I have not played that many Taylor guitars, mine is just sensational. The setup from the factory with medium strings is still as I bought it. The fit and finish are just flawless. The pickup (ES2) sounds great, though I run mine through a Tonedexter for a more 'studio mic'd' sound. And the 'compound carve' neck is really nice for my playing....very impressed!
Here is the Taylor blurb about my 717e:
Part of Taylor’s inaugural class of Grand Pacific guitars, the Builder’s Edition 717e builds on a long tradition of rosewood/spruce dreadnoughts but breaks new ground with an entirely new Taylor sound. The round-shoulder dreadnought shape, featuring Taylor’s award-winning V-Class bracing, produces warm, seasoned acoustic tone in which individual notes overlap and blend smoothly together, while the low-end power common among dreadnoughts boasts greater clarity here. V-Class brings extra punch and sustain, along with improved intonation and musicality across the entire frequency spectrum. Together with rosewood’s harmonic complexity and the played-in sound of the torrefied spruce top, players can expect rich, luxurious tonal character from top to bottom. It’s a voice comfortably rooted in a traditional sound, yet updated to offer more expressive musical range. As a Builder’s Edition model, the 717e also sports an array of premium, player-friendly features: chamfered body edges, rolled fretboard edges, and a new compound-carve neck profile, whose contours match the natural adjustments in the player’s hand position when moving up and down the fretboard. Even the bridge design was refined to add a more ergonomic feel for the player’s pick hand. Taylor’s noise-reducing Silent Satin finish displays the muted sheen of an older guitar, while elegantly understated appointments include mother-of-pearl Arrowhead fretboard and peghead inlays, with sapele binding. This edition also features our stage-ready ES2 electronics.
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Thanks ZW and 40YP!
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Thanks North Country!
I was changing the strings on my custom Cargill and the only thing it has in common with the J50 is.......he has put the strings on himself instead of the assistant and he puts the cursed lock and twist of the string on the tuning machines! The fat strings are tricky to remove but the skinnies are plain deadly....on the fat strings I can get a fingernail or pliers under the hook and lift the rest out of its clutches. But the skinny strings need my magnifying glass, pliers and the fear of being impaled...again. The magnifying glass and the pliers are so old that I went to a hardware and bought new ones today!
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Thanks KC!
It will be interesting to compare my 2002 J50 to the new 50s models if they arrive here, and the 60s models like yours. The guy at the shop said he expected some of more standard priced models possibly in mid June. Mine has a chunky neck that I have not played on any modern Gibson.
The Anthem pickup is sounding great too! Next big test would be playing it through my friend’s PA when lockdown here ends.....
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Thanks LM, QM and Jinder!
Yes, the pawn shop J50 find is just something, eh? A third of the price of a new one! So far, the neck hasn't fallen off...
And yeah, that Still fella has been pinching my stuff for years.
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Thanks Bluesyjacuzzi!
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Yep, as the title says - a blues played on my 2002 Gibson J50. (hot off the luthier's bench yesterday!)
Pointed the Neumann KM184 mic at the guitar and played - got most of the fretboard, I think!
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A simple reply:
"I want!"
Well, I want the 'theory' of it - looks, video sound, specs - 1.77"nut and fat neck, torrefied top, rosewood back etc. What I don't want is to order a dud online that needs a repair and a setup. I would love to play it next to my 2002 J50 with now perfect sound, setup and playability plus an Anthem pickup working beautifully - straight back from the luthier's.......
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The problem could be caused by any number of things - nut height, guitar setup or the neck size, shape.
Don't touch the guitar - get in the car and take it back to where you bought it and have a discussion about your hand problem and try some of the other guitars at the shop! Take your time and play all of them if you can.
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It isn’t so bad.....😃, I did my Saturday morning practice x2 on my OM18 Authentic, tough eh?
Then in the afternoon, I dragged out the pawn shop 2005 Dove to do something I have meant to do - compare its Anthem pickup with mic off, running through my old Aura Spectrum box and then my Tonedexter.
Tonedexter wins!
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8 hours ago, kelly campbell said:
As always I love it..good stuff BK Thanks
Thanks KC!
I have to play another guitar - the J50 had to go back to the luthier to get the pickup tweaked - not much volume. The setup of the guitar was fabulous though and although he said it would be back the next day, it isn’t! And now it is the weekend with no J50.
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3 hours ago, j45nick said:
I have five Gibsons with five different neck profiles and four different nut widths.
The secret is out then, Nick. Every Gibson has a different neck!😃
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A few notes.....
The Better Half is fairly educated on my guitars - by me! But one time she said: “You wouldn’t really play that live, instead of your Dobro, would you?” So the happy, shiny Dobro that I have owned since Noah was taking guitar lessons is the only one to take to a gig. She may have a point - it does attract a crowd and I don’t even need to play it! And while she has heard me babbling about them - all my guitars, and played all of them for her on the couch.......I am not sure if she could pick any in a police lineup type situation.
Then.....a guitar friend was over and I thought he would go ape over my Dove cherry burst. Didn’t like it. Looks, play, zip. He wants a Taylor 717e Builder’s Edition like mine. I thought he would absolutely detest that one. He also couldn’t understand that I don’t want to play electric guitar in his jam band concoction. I must have spent the last 150 years learning fingerpicking to just upset him!
And......when the big virus lockdown begun, my sister interstate was going stir crazy-ish and I asked her if she wanted her guitar back to teach herself a bit (classical guitar she abandoned about 1975 that I had fixed ). No, didn’t want that one - but can she have the red one? (Dove cherry burst) - it would photograph well with the hats she is making at her millinery class......
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Here is the Man and his J50!
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Nope, closest to the door and locked and loaded is the Hummingbird copy! It is currently the ‘decoy’ guitar, hope they take it!
Best weapon would be the National Tricone held by the headstock and with a sideways smack, but I am not sure I could swing it. My dog is a Blue Heeler(Australian Cattle Dog)/Staffordshire Terrier cross and doesn’t bark at humans, just appears silently at their ankles with a sick grin!😄 So a smack with the sides of the Bird copy and a shredded leg may deter........
But you know, if they really want the cars,guitars, take ‘em.
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Frank Hannon Dove Signature
in Gibson Acoustic
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It was written in black Texta but the guy at the shop spent '4 days with it at home trying to remove it' - his words. So it was dark black and what remains is probably there soaked in.
I like it! It is a mystery! Frank above has 'Love' on his TR cover! Maybe he owned it? Wrote on it!
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