hamparts2 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 These seem to be impossible to find on the net. I'm really interested in purchasing a blonde 2008 Epiphone Byrdland. So interested that I think I'm going to sell my 1967 Gibson ES330 to acquire the funds. Do any of you guys know a good place to look for one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eor Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 its called ebay. :) two have gone in the past couple of weeks. must it be an 08? i might have traded you mine, but i think its an 07. but seriously, keep an eye out on ebay. there seem to be weird spikes where you'll see two or three on at once, then nothing for a few months. they appear there much more reliably than on archtop.com, gbase, the jazz guitar forum or the other usual spots for used archtops. i stumbled into mine by dumb luck wandering into a store to try out something else. lucky for you that blondes seem to outnumber the brunettes by about five to one on the used market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamparts2 Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 its called ebay. :) two have gone in the past couple of weeks. must it be an 08? i might have traded you mine, but i think its an 07. but seriously, keep an eye out on ebay. there seem to be weird spikes where you'll see two or three on at once, then nothing for a few months. they appear there much more reliably than on archtop.com, gbase, the jazz guitar forum or the other usual spots for used archtops. i stumbled into mine by dumb luck wandering into a store to try out something else. lucky for you that blondes seem to outnumber the brunettes by about five to one on the used market. That's good to hear! It doesn't have to be an 08 I'm just mostly concerned about the guitar being in as good of condition as possible. Are you happy with yours? What kind of music do you use it for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eor Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 they are probably all in good condition. byrdlands tend to not see the kind of wear and tear that a les paul might. i love mine a lot. while it is very much its own thing, with you are smart with the knobs and the amp settings, you can get a lot of sounds out of it. i generally use it for various cleans in no specific genre, but i can reasonably ape lots of jazz tones if i have to. its also very sensitive to right hand placement- where you pick varies the sound a lot. some people complain that it is too bright, but if you want the warmer sounds, you have to pick over the neck pup or even over the last few frets (because the pups are squished together). the other big thing is finding the right string gauge. for my taste, 13s are working in standard but i'd have to go to 14s if i wanted to tune down. strangely, i've been looking to add a casino and had been looking at older, later 60s 330s, too. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamparts2 Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 they are probably all in good condition. byrdlands tend to not see the kind of wear and tear that a les paul might. i love mine a lot. while it is very much its own thing, with you are smart with the knobs and the amp settings, you can get a lot of sounds out of it. i generally use it for various cleans in no specific genre, but i can reasonably ape lots of jazz tones if i have to. its also very sensitive to right hand placement- where you pick varies the sound a lot. some people complain that it is too bright, but if you want the warmer sounds, you have to pick over the neck pup or even over the last few frets (because the pups are squished together). the other big thing is finding the right string gauge. for my taste, 13s are working in standard but i'd have to go to 14s if i wanted to tune down. strangely, i've been looking to add a casino and had been looking at older, later 60s 330s, too. ;) Bright sounds like a good thing to me! The Byrdland would be my first guitar with Humbuckers, and I certainly am a sucker for the single coil tone. People always talk about how the scale length is an issue with Byrdlands but thats one of the main selling points for me as unfortunately I have tiny hands. Well I have have a beautiful '67 cherry ES330 in very good condition that I purchased about five years ago that I love but after acquiring a vintage mustang probably 6 months ago I realized I really belong on short scale instruments. Would you consider parting with your Byrdland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eor Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Bright sounds like a good thing to me! The Byrdland would be my first guitar with Humbuckers, and I certainly am a sucker for the single coil tone. People always talk about how the scale length is an issue with Byrdlands but thats one of the main selling points for me as unfortunately I have tiny hands. then you are in luck. it isn't single coil bright, and you can do a lot to darken it with the tone knob, fingers, picks and strings, but it is a very clear sound. great quasi- acoustic sound from the middle position when strumming. and if you're married to the single coil idea, you can always split/tap/whatever the humbuckers and get those old school 50s tones. folks complain about the neck, but its just like any other 24.75, if it were capo'd at the 1st fret. the extra frets at the end don't mean much to me as you can't really reach them, but i'm never there, anyway. but the extra frets shoving the neck pup back is one of the keys to the byrdland sound. Well I have have a beautiful '67 cherry ES330 in very good condition that I purchased about five years ago that I love but after acquiring a vintage mustang probably 6 months ago I realized I really belong on short scale instruments. Would you consider parting with your Byrdland? i'm not sure if i'd be willing to part with it, really. and i'm not really a cherry guy. but it wouldn't hurt to know what the nut width on the 330 was, and whether it is a short or long neck. and if you wanted to show everyone a few pictures, it wouldn't hurt anyone. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamparts2 Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 then you are in luck. it isn't single coil bright, and you can do a lot to darken it with the tone knob, fingers, picks and strings, but it is a very clear sound. great quasi- acoustic sound from the middle position when strumming. and if you're married to the single coil idea, you can always split/tap/whatever the humbuckers and get those old school 50s tones. folks complain about the neck, but its just like any other 24.75, if it were capo'd at the 1st fret. the extra frets at the end don't mean much to me as you can't really reach them, but i'm never there, anyway. but the extra frets shoving the neck pup back is one of the keys to the byrdland sound. i'm not sure if i'd be willing to part with it, really. and i'm not really a cherry guy. but it wouldn't hurt to know what the nut width on the 330 was, and whether it is a short or long neck. and if you wanted to show everyone a few pictures, it wouldn't hurt anyone. :) The nut width is 1 5/8 and it is one of the ones that the neck joins at the 16th fret (if you're into the classic Casino/330 chime you need it to be that sort. way less resonance in the post '68 ones where they joined at the 18th fret.) I'll try to get pictures up for y'all to peak at tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamparts2 Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 One quick picture. More to come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeko Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 One quick picture. More to come! Nice ES330. I've been real pleased with my Byrdland. Was lucky enough to grab a matching Broadway before these were discontinued. I like to switch back and forth to compare the two. Yeah, keep an eye on ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC42 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I wish these would be made available. Would prefer a Florentine cut but... Unless a lotto ticket wins there is not much chance of obtaining a Gibson. Beautiful duo there L4! DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeko Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I wish these would be made available. Would prefer a Florentine cut but... Unless a lotto ticket wins there is not much chance of obtaining a Gibson. Beautiful duo there L4! DC Thanks much DC ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjoicube Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 As an owner of a lovely 2007 Epi Byrdland I thought I might share a few thoughts about the whole thing, especially to DC42. I bought my Epi with the same thought, that I will probably never be able to justify a gibson byrdland, and seeking out some classic nugent tones. Of course, as you said, the florentine cut would probably be better; the venetian cut really does limit upper fret access. On the other hand, I do like having a guitar that's a little different than Ted's. Here's the weird thing I found: I find that I almost can't play his tunes on this guitar and I don't know why. I can pick up the guitar with full intention to play stranglehold, but it fades somewhere between being mesmerized by the gold hardware and the sweet sound which almost pours fourth. I don't know if this is how every byrdland is, but I find that I can only ever fingerpick on this beautiful instrument. I am almost wondering whether a cheaper byrd copy exists so I can escape this problem. Below is a pretty bad quality shot of my Epi Byrd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamparts2 Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 all these pretty byrdlands are only gassing my GAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeko Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 all these pretty byrdlands are only gassing my GAS We're here for ya ham! LoL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eor Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 that 330 isn't so horrible looking. what's the neck like? no pickguard? :( how would you compare the broadway and the byrdland? was always curious. still keep an eye out just in case. florentine cut #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamparts2 Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 that 330 isn't so horrible looking. what's the neck like? no pickguard? :( how would you compare the broadway and the byrdland? was always curious. still keep an eye out just in case. florentine cut #1 I have the pick guard. I just took it off for resonance purposes when I first got it around five years ago. Luckily that is something that is very easily put right back on. The neck is a small late sixties thin line style neck - kind of how I imagine clapton's 335 to be. It's very fast. I personally like it though I could imagine that if your in to fifties style necks it would take a little getting used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrasso Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 For a florentine cutaway and great tone, there is always the Samick JZ-3(which I consider a cousin to Epiphones) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeko Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 For a florentine cutaway and great tone, there is always the Samick JZ-3(which I consider a cousin to Epiphones) Samic, always a nice guitar IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrasso Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Good Korean product. Great neck. Wide variety of tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeko Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 If I'm not mistaken, Samick made Emperor Regents for a while no? Maybe late '90's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjoicube Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I didn't know whether I was allowed to discuss non epiphone brands, but there is also the Xaviere XV-950, which has the florentine cut and the thinline body, but I think it has the incorrect scale.... Seems like a decent replica at a budget price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Well I have have a beautiful '67 cherry ES330 in very good condition that I purchased about five years ago that I love but after acquiring a vintage mustang probably 6 months ago I realized I really belong on short scale instruments. Would you consider parting with your Byrdland? I'd seriously consider that trade if I had an Epi Byrdland. But then, I'm addicted to 330/Casinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamparts2 Posted June 8, 2013 Author Share Posted June 8, 2013 The samick would be a good choice but I'm really looking for the short neck length and those have a standard gibson scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman0007 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Just in case your interested. http://www.quinnsmusic.com/products/1968-or-1969-Gibson-Byrdland-4842.html?cPath=365 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamparts2 Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 Just in case your interested. http://www.quinnsmusic.com/products/1968-or-1969-Gibson-Byrdland-4842.html?cPath=365 beautiful guitar but i'm really looking for an Epiphone i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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