golfski Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) Hey All, As discussed in other threads, I am enjoying a recently acquired J-150 (Noel G. Sig) and it is really starting to open up and is just beautiful to look at! While admiring it, I noticed the one of the sides has some ‘dimension’ to it. When light is reflecting, you can almost see what looks to be a long dent, but it seems like maybe its more the grain raised in the wood that is causing this. You can barely feel ‘elevation’ of a ridge that runs down the side of the guitar, but you can feel it. It’s pretty easy to see in person but very hard to capture on pics - in the ones attached if you notice the reflection of the curtain, on one side its clean straight lines (last pic), on the other side you can see the lines curve in two places which s the edges of the ridge. I have tried to include other pics that show this as well. This doesn’t bother me, I am just curious to know that this is normal and an explanation of what it could be. Given there is only 200 of these made, I’ll assume it makes it even more unique, but want to make sure its not a sign of damage or anything as I had it shipped to the desert and it took a while. Grain side No grain side Edited July 10, 2021 by golfski 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanstreak Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 I'm curious as well, although my NG J-150 doesn't seem to have that, but does have some nice flame on the sides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slopeshoulder Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Id have that looked at by a solid repair tech or maybe submit this to gibson. See what they can do for you or have to say about it. Dont want that to become a future problem. Thats a very cool guitar by the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) I've seen that on one of the ones I've had. . . 'just took a quick look at a few that are around here/not seeing it, I'll broaden the search later- maybe it's one of the gone ones. Similar to automotive sheet metal, whenever you bend it, it's going create surface tension in that area. But with wood's cell structure, it's not too much of a stretch to see how it could "pull" the reflection as the finish sinks in a little. Yeah, it could probably be minimized with some compounding, or even with some rubber-backed wet sanding with microfine paper if you cared to do so, but it wood bug me as little as it sounds like it bugs you. But it is curious. At 37 seconds in to the video, this Bozeman tour shows the sides not being steamed, but rather soaked before being put into the press: Edited July 12, 2021 by 62burst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPhx Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 My SJ200 Western classic has similar waviness on the high side, lower bought bend. I thought it was just a symptom of the wood being bent, and haven't worried much about it. Mine is from 2017, and is doing just fine. Enjoy that nice J150 golfski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfski Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 Thanks for the continued information everyone! It definitely doesn't bother me if its not anything that is considered damaged, if anything after watching that video above I think it gives it even more character and uniqueness being hand made. I noticed the edging on the back of one of the shoulders is slightly not straight and seeing how this comes together in that video you can see how some variation can be expected! On a side note - I really enjoyed that finger-picking/strumming music to that video - any ideas where tab might be or what song that is? I don't usually play that style but trying to get into it and that seems like a great example! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 13 hours ago, 62burst said: I've seen that on one of the ones I've had. . . 'just took a quick look at a few that are around here/not seeing it, I'll broaden the search later- maybe it's one of the gone ones. Similar to automotive sheet metal, whenever you bend it, it's going create surface tension in that area. But with wood's cell structure, it's not too much of a stretch to see how it could "pull" the reflection as the finish sinks in a little. Yeah, it could probably be minimized with some compounding, or even with some rubber-backed wet sanding with microfine paper if you cared to do so, but it wood bug me as little as it sounds like it bugs you. But it is curious. At 37 seconds in to the video, this Bozeman tour shows the sides not being steamed, but rather soaked before being put into the press: Its a cool process. Great vid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 11:43 AM, golfski said: Hey All, As discussed in other threads, I am enjoying a recently acquired J-150 (Noel G. Sig) and it is really starting to open up and is just beautiful to look at! While admiring it, I noticed the one of the sides has some ‘dimension’ to it. When light is reflecting, you can almost see what looks to be a long dent, but it seems like maybe its more the grain raised in the wood that is causing this. You can barely feel ‘elevation’ of a ridge that runs down the side of the guitar, but you can feel it. It’s pretty easy to see in person but very hard to capture on pics - in the ones attached if you notice the reflection of the curtain, on one side its clean straight lines (last pic), on the other side you can see the lines curve in two places which s the edges of the ridge. I have tried to include other pics that show this as well. This doesn’t bother me, I am just curious to know that this is normal and an explanation of what it could be. Given there is only 200 of these made, I’ll assume it makes it even more unique, but want to make sure its not a sign of damage or anything as I had it shipped to the desert and it took a while. Grain side No grain side I think youll be fine , I own a few like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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