lastpaddy Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Wanna build my own Roxy SG. i’m buying the parts but anyone know where I could get the wiring diagram for my guitar guy . please . Would be a great help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastpaddy Posted May 26, 2022 Author Share Posted May 26, 2022 Cheers . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) No clue. I looked for a schematic, but to no avail. Edited May 27, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I can't find anything, maybe you could sweet talk Gibson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastpaddy Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 I Just did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, lastpaddy said: I Just did You win. Gonna share. Me and Steve are huge Zappa nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) He didn't say they helped him. Maybe Gibson told him to jam down the road ya bumble bum bum. I would have played the sympathy card and brought up the bugs in my zoot suit. Edited May 27, 2022 by SteveFord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Hmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) Or you just get an Epiphone SG Standard 60's with Maestro Vibrola and call it a day for most of the parts. Not sure how easy it would be to replace the trapezoids with dots.. Edited May 27, 2022 by mihcmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, mihcmac said: Or you just get a an Epiphone SG Standard 60's with Maestro Vibrola and call it a day for most of the parts. Frank being Frank modded Roxy with 2 switches on the pickguard that coil split and make the pups go out of phase. Nothing that can't be done with push/pull pots. Not sure if had one of those Green Ringer pups in there or if that was in the Baby Snakes fake SG. I think Dweez owns the original as well has the burnt Hendrix Strat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Frank being Frank modded Roxy with 2 switches on the pickguard that coil split and make the pups go out of phase. Nothing that can't be done with push/pull pots. Not sure if had one of those Green Ringer pups in there or if that was in the Baby Snakes fake SG. I think Dweez owns the original as well has the burnt Hendrix Strat. To make look-a-like I would start with an Epi G-400 that has the dot inlay with 61 style set neck and TOM bridge with humbuckers, these also have the smaller SG Special style pickguard and 4 controls. These have the clipped ear headstock which could be filled in to look more Gibson like, repaint the headstock face and add Roto Matics. The body would need to be routed under the pickguard for the coil tapping or phasing (6-pole double throw) mini toggles. Select your open coil pickups and build the wiring harness. Black Tophats, Add a Maestro Vibrola using a Bigsby style dive bar. and it would all over except for the crying... 2005 G-400 possibly 😱 Note that most of the kits for building SG's have bolt-on necks and the geometry of the neck and body are very different from a Gibson SG. Edited May 27, 2022 by mihcmac 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I think the guitar also has a built-in 18 dB preamp but that may have been another SG he used. https://reverb.com/item/422427-gibson-usa-frank-zappa-roxy-sg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 They've sent me schematics when I've asked Ever since I sent them a really insulting letter about not getting my 25th Anniversary Les Paul belt buckle they've been great to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, SteveFord said: They've sent me schematics when I've asked Ever since I sent them a really insulting letter about not getting my 25th Anniversary Les Paul belt buckle they've been great to me. You probably could have found them online. I remember when you were having your BB issue. It took me all of about 3 mins to find the schematic online. The Roxy wiring schematic is illusive. Edited May 27, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) Hmm, I don't see building a Zappa Roxy copy any different than building a George Harrison Tele or Strat.. Personally I want a left handed white Hendrix Strat to setup for me to play right handed, I don't care what label is on it as long as its not a Squire. Edited May 28, 2022 by mihcmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, mihcmac said: Hmm, I don't see bulging a Zappa Roxy copy any different than building a George Harrison Tele or Strat.. Personally I want a left handed white Hendrix Strat to setup for me to play right handed, I don't care what label is on it as long as its not a Squire. Charvel Jackson might work, their not Squires as far as I know. To me a Strat is made by Fender, all others are fakes. Edited May 28, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Charvel Jackson might work, their not Squires as far as I know. To me a Strat is made by Fender, all others are fakes. I would prefer a G&L Legacy in white but this one would do Edited May 28, 2022 by mihcmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 G & L does make nice stuff. My buddy is a G & L fan. He has a G & L Jazz Bass, Blues Boy Tele and I think another Tele. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 16 hours ago, mihcmac said: Hmm, I don't see bulging a Zappa Roxy copy any different than building a George Harrison Tele or Strat.. Personally I want a left handed white Hendrix Strat to setup for me to play right handed, I don't care what label is on it as long as its not a Squire. Other than the manufacturers, probably not much, and the parts you need, and the wiring is different, so not much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Other than the manufacturers, probably not much, and the parts you need, and the wiring is different, so not much. The OP didn't say what how he was going to build it, he only asked for a wiring diagram, he could be starting his project with a Gibson SG, getting the parts, rewiring and modding to build a Roxy. Edited May 28, 2022 by mihcmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Here is the OP's first statement: Wanna build my own Roxy SG. To me it seems like he wants to do it on an SG body style guitar. It doesn't state he wants to wire any electric guitar the way Franks Roxy was. It states - Build my own Roxy SG .Maybe I'm reading to much into it? The OP's exact words, he doesn't say what brand guitar he is starting with, just asks for wiring help. Wanna build my own Roxy SG. i’m buying the parts but anyone know where I could get the wiring diagram for my guitar guy . please . Would be a great help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mihcmac said: The OP's exact words, he doesn't say what brand guitar he is starting with, just asks for wiring help. Wanna build my own Roxy SG. i’m buying the parts but anyone know where I could get the wiring diagram for my guitar guy . please . Would be a great help. Yeah your right about a brand not being mentioned, but we both know when we talk SG's its the double pointy ones. It may be Gibby or Epi or some other one, but I think the shape of the guitar, he wants devil horns. I say, I think. Edited May 28, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Yeah but we both know when we talk SG's its the double pointy ones. It may be Gibby or Epi or some other one, but I think the shape of the guitar, he wants devil horns. I say, I think. Yep, I got off track from reading some of the comments, which led me to complete guitar construction. After reading the description of the Roxy that it has both Coil Tapping and Phasing, it would need to possibly use a 3-Way 4-Pole (12 connections ) On/On/On Mini Toggle for each of the pickups directly wired to them, the toggle would send either normal or coil tapping or phasing signal to its respective tone and volume controls which would feed the 3-way pickup selector switch going to the output jack. The most complicated part is getting all of the jumpers connected correctly on the mini toggle. Edited May 28, 2022 by mihcmac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastpaddy Posted May 29, 2022 Author Share Posted May 29, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 6:48 PM, mihcmac said: The OP's exact words, he doesn't say what brand guitar he is starting with, just asks for wiring help. Wanna build my own Roxy SG. i’m buying the parts but anyone know where I could get the wiring diagram for my guitar guy . please . Would be a great help. Just the wiring I need . Have an SG body and neck . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastpaddy Posted May 29, 2022 Author Share Posted May 29, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 6:54 PM, mihcmac said: Yep, I got off track from reading some of the comments, which led me to complete guitar construction. After reading the description of the Roxy that it has both Coil Tapping and Phasing, it would need to possibly use a 3-Way 4-Pole (12 connections ) On/On/On Mini Toggle for each of the pickups directly wired to them, the toggle would send either normal or coil tapping or phasing signal to its respective tone and volume controls which would feed the 3-way pickup selector switch going to the output jack. The most complicated part is getting all of the jumpers connected correctly on the mini toggle. Thanks for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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