layboomo Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 I'm tied up on a computer that doesn't have my autocad program on it tonite......so I'll do this with a couple stock pics. Here is a standard 3 way switch 2 pup wiring You'll notice that the 2 center contacts are soldered together....for this application Don't do that! Bring red and white to one set of contacts and black and + volume control to the other set of contacts and then the rest is like this but without the added push pull switch. Pretty straight ahead .......not conventional but simple non the less. I'm surprised you had such a hard time visualizing it carverman. Edit I left out 1 wire from white to ground sorry.....red and white stay together and in the other break position white goes to ground...Duh sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 OK I got a few minutes and this is doable....red and white are together on on one contact up it's humbucker' date='middle it's single coil and down it's kill. So you have red and white together and ground on one side and black and pos vol control on the other side......I started second guessing myself It's very much like this but with a second break position for the kill function. And you don't connect the center contacts like a standard LP switch![img']http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p64/layboomo/1hum_1vol_1tone_split.jpg[/img] Hmm, I don't know huge amounts about electrical wiring-type stuff, bu it certainly looks and sounds right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 Okay, now that I know the wiring, what pickup should i use? I'm leaning toward either Rockfield Select Wound Custom or a fat ***. Both have 4-conductor wiring. but I've heard alot on here about GFS pickups, what would you guys suggest? I'm looking for (ideally) a P-90 tone tapped, and something good for blues and hard/classic rock on HB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carverman Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 OK I got a few minutes and this is doable....red and white are together on on one contact up it's humbucker' date='middle it's single coil and down it's kill. So you have red and white together and ground on one side and black and pos vol control on the other side......I started second guessing myself :- It's very much like this but with a second break position for the kill function. And you don't connect the center contacts like a standard LP switch![/quote'] I would guess that you are using this SD diagram as an illustration of the way the switchcraft 3-way should be wired. In this diagram , all it's doing is lifting or connecting, the ground to the red/white (the end of the windings for the N-S coils for SDs),which is what we discussed originally. ( I removed my original posts. ) Blk = start of N coil= hot Grn = start of S coil =gnd So in the split mode, the S coil (actual reverse wound coil) is grounded out on both ends (wires) and the North is used as the single coil. To do this, the center contacts on the switchcraft 3-way need to be separated and we get as you say: 1. humbucker 2. Split (south coil grounded out) 3. Kill (ground applied to the 3-way contact that serves the other non-existant p_up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted May 29, 2008 Author Share Posted May 29, 2008 I would guess that you are using this SD diagram as an illustration of the way the switchcraft 3-way should be wired. In this diagram ' date=' all it's doing is lifting or connecting, the ground to the red/white (the end of the windings for the N-S coils for SDs),which is what we discussed originally. ( I removed my original posts. ) Blk = start of N coil= hot Grn = start of S coil =gnd So in the split mode, the S coil (actual reverse wound coil) is grounded out on both ends (wires) and the North is used as the single coil. To do this, the center contacts on the switchcraft 3-way need to be separated and we get as you say: 1. humbucker 2. Split (south coil grounded out) 3. Kill (ground applied to the 3-way contact that serves the other non-existant p_up. [/quote'] Hmmm... Sounds complicated, but I'm SURE it'll be easier when I've altuall got soldiering iron in-hand and am looking at where the wires go, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layboomo Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 I would guess that you are using this SD diagram as an illustration of the way the switchcraft 3-way should be wired. In this diagram ' date=' all it's doing is lifting or connecting, the ground to the red/white (the end of the windings for the N-S coils for SDs),which is what we discussed originally. ( I removed my original posts. ) Blk = start of N coil= hot Grn = start of S coil =gnd So in the split mode, the S coil (actual reverse wound coil) is grounded out on both ends (wires) and the North is used as the single coil. To do this, the center contacts on the switchcraft 3-way need to be separated and we get as you say: 1. humbucker 2. Split (south coil grounded out) 3. Kill (ground applied to the 3-way contact that serves the other non-existant p_up. [/quote'] Thats correct....I used that diagram because it was the closest thing I could find and could not draw one last night. But yes the key is in wiring the 3 way without linking the center tabs to give you the extra break function......I thought it was kinda clever..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted May 29, 2008 Author Share Posted May 29, 2008 Thats correct....I used that diagram because it was the closest thing I could find and could not draw one last night. But yes the key is in wiring the 3 way without linking the center tabs to give you the extra break function......I thought it was kinda clever..... VERY clever. I hope to do this when I get some time and post a whole thread about the wiring job. What should I call the guitar? Junior from hell? Frankenjunior? Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 What should I call the guitar? Junior from hell? Frankenjunior? Switch*****.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted May 29, 2008 Author Share Posted May 29, 2008 Switch*****.. Haha. Might actually use that. Custom trussrod cover would be just plain awesome to put that on.... Oooh, I was just thinking, would a B-50 import bigsby tailpiece be too much? It just sounds kinda cool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted June 1, 2008 Author Share Posted June 1, 2008 Hmmm... Not sure whether to go new or used... I kinda liek the idea of totally going mad on a new one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingone Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 On 5/29/2008 at 2:13 PM, layboomo said: Quote I would guess that you are using this SD diagram as an illustration of the way the switchcraft 3-way should be wired. In this diagram ' date=' all it's doing is lifting or connecting, the ground to the red/white (the end of the windings for the N-S coils for SDs),which is what we discussed originally. ( I removed my original posts. ) Blk = start of N coil= hot Grn = start of S coil =gnd So in the split mode, the S coil (actual reverse wound coil) is grounded out on both ends (wires) and the North is used as the single coil. To do this, the center contacts on the switchcraft 3-way need to be separated and we get as you say: 1. humbucker 2. Split (south coil grounded out) 3. Kill (ground applied to the 3-way contact that serves the other non-existant p_up. [/quote'] Thats correct....I used that diagram because it was the closest thing I could find and could not draw one last night. But yes the key is in wiring the 3 way without linking the center tabs to give you the extra break function......I thought it was kinda clever..... Can anyone draw this up for me and tell me what switchcraft switch I need. All the pics are gone from this thread and I want to try this on a new guitar I just got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTHPWN Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 On 1/5/2020 at 5:40 AM, Pingone said: Can anyone draw this up for me and tell me what switchcraft switch I need. All the pics are gone from this thread and I want to try this on a new guitar I just got. I'm currently working on one, I'll post a diagram once I figure it out :P The switch we are discussing is a tradition LP style 3 way toggle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLB Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 On 1/28/2021 at 12:43 PM, DTHPWN said: I'm currently working on one, I'll post a diagram once I figure it out :P I would also love an updated graphic for this if anyone has it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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