rhcpfan2011 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Hi everyone i have a quick question about the epiphone dot. First is the neck like a les paul, fender, or really thick gibson style neck? Second how does it sound plugged in? Third how does it sound unplugged, could it act as an acoustic guitar for me? Fourth how does the finish look? I have no experience with semi-hollows as ive never seen them in my local guitar center or any local music stored so any advise on this model would be great. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg3333 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I can't answer 1. I have heard it reputed that the neck would fall into the thick category 2. Sounds great. But then all I have is a Dot so I am biased. 3. I play mine unplugged quite often. It is louder with heavier strings. It still will not be as loud as a true acoustic or an electric hollow body. 4. It depends upon what you get. Overall the finish is nice but little things, like getting black on all the f hole area, may be spotty. For the price an Epiphone Dot is a good value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhcpfan2011 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 yeah from what i've heard on youtube it sounds like a great guitar for the price. I know it would be like a full acoustic sound but what i was is for it to be loud or good enough? i guess to be played at an acoustic jam with my friends, and definitely a loud enough sound to be practiced without an amp. The neck may be a problem as im accustomed to my knock off fender neck les paul with a 60's neck i believe over a thick 50's neck. Thank you for your help davidg3333 i appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Like virtually any "true" electric guitar, a Dot is not going to double as an acoustic guitar, period. As for the remainder of your questions, you'll really need to play one and decide for yourself. I find it surprising that your local music stores don't have Dots, being that they're so popular - look harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhcpfan2011 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 it isn't that they don't have dots, they don't have any left handed dots lol i understand that it won't double as an electric, im just trying to get a clue as to how much acoustic sound it has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 it isn't that they don't have dots' date=' they don't have any left handed dots loli understand that it won't double as an electric, im just trying to get a clue as to how much acoustic sound it has.[/quote'] Geez, you can still strum a righty to see how loud it is..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhcpfan2011 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 ah ok hah, well you just made a complete fool outa me. I will definitely do that next time i head over to gc. Thanks for the help Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 ah ok hah' date=' well you just made a complete fool outa me. I will definitely do that next time i head over to gc. Thanks for the help Ron[/quote'] I certainly wasn't trying to embarass you, just pointing out something that was obvious to me. I understand your curiosity about other guitars but there's no other way to really learn about them except to play them, and even then, differences like amplifier, acoustics of the room you're playing in, etc., will have their effects. And you can still get a feel for the neck on a righty and form a couple of chords (think mirror image) to hear how it sounds plugged in. BTW: What guitar(s) do you have now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhcpfan2011 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 haha i know didn't mean anything by it, thats my sarcastic way of putting things. Yea you definitely are in the fact that i should still just test it to see how it feels. I know this is completely off subject but would you think this would be than buying an acoustic guitar seeing as i dont own an acoustic or a semi hollow? just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I know this is completely off subject but would you think this would be than buying an acoustic guitar seeing as i dont own an acoustic or a semi hollow? just curious. I don't understand your question - could you try to be clearer, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhcpfan2011 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 oh i guess what i meant to say is this better than buying an acoustic guitar? I don't own an acoustic guitar or a semi would it better to go with this semi rather than just stick to a regular acoustic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg3333 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 If you are asking if a Dot played unplugged will hold up in a group with acoustic guitars, I would have to say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhcpfan2011 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 oh no i know it wont hold up. Lets see how i can phrase this... would it be better since i only own electrics to stick with an electric that can be partially acoustic sounding, or buy a full bodied acoustic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johno Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 A dot is a semi hollow body. It has a block of wood in it designed to cut down on feed back. I'ts not as hollow as a Casino for example and not as loud as a Casion unplugged. It also is a thinline so the body cavity doesn't like a large body archtop so it is nowhere close to the volume unplugged as those are. It really can't be used as an acoustic guitar. It's far to quiet. Yes it may be louder than a solid body unplugged but not enough to give you any acoustic tone. If you want an acoustic get an acoutic guitar that has an onboard pickup system so you can play it unplugged as an aoustic with loud volume or plugged in as an electric with louder volume. You'll need to by an acoustic amp for the acoustic-electric though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 My personal opinion is that every player needs at least one acoustic guitar. Too versatile not to have. But that's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhcpfan2011 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 mmm ok is see that helps me alot i think that an acoustic/electric will best suit me for now and i can always get a dot down the road. Thanks for all the help guys i really appreciate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant7629 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 The neck on my Dot is very chunky and thick, which is great for me but some people prefer a slimmer neck. +1 on the Casino, it does sound much louder unplugged...The necks on the Casino a quite slim too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 If you play mostly acoustic, but want an electric sound, "now and then," then you might look into the "John Lennon" EJ-160E, which has a P-100 pickup at the top of the sound hole. Not being an "acoustic" pickup but an actual electric guitar pickup, when used, it will sound more electric, than acoustic. IF, however, you play more electric style, then a Semi ("Dot")-or even full acoustic thin-line, (Casino) would be the way to go. You could then get an actual acoustic guitar, later. IF you want the capability, of running an acoustic guitar, through an amp or sound board (PA), there are several acoustic models, with that capability, both standard Epi and "Masterbilt," version. Check out the Epiphone Guitar site, for specifics. Other makers make their own versions, too. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulsaslim Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I've said it for years and wholeheartedly believe the Dot to be the best guitar you can buy for under $400. I've got two 'regular' dots & two elitist dots and love 'em. MF has lefty's for $414, only $15 more than the righty. A great deal, if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamstir Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Hi I just got my Dot this week and have to say that for the price paid (£229) it's a great guitar. I got a cherry one and the finish on it is very very nice. I personally wouldn't use it as an acoustic, but it does make a nice sound unplugged for quiet practice sessions. Having learnt to play on a thin necked Ibanez I was unsure about the neck untill I got it in my hands, it feels solid and nice and is well polished. I have it plugged through a orange crush amp and love the nice rich warm tone you get from it. In short that'll be a thumbs up for the dot then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhcpfan2011 Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 man yall make my decisions hard hah ill have to say that i think the dot will be a great value. I do think ill play an electric alot more than an acoustic especially if its semi hollow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doth Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Hello Red Hot, I didn't play acoustic for the first 15 years I played. Never thought I would. I picked up an acoustic for a camping trip when a group of us went to celebrate the life of a friend that had recently passed away. I decided to splurge and bought a very nice acoustic. Because of playing the acoustic, I got much better in a very short amount of time. They are not as forgiving as a Les Paul with a Marshall stack. My fingers became stronger, and I became a cleaner player. Now, I reach for the acoustic probably about 95% of the time. Never thought I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 The other thing is, you can play an acoustic anywhere! Don't need amps, stomp boxes, ear plugs, or electricity. ;>) There are nice ones made, that are really reasonably priced, and play as well as most electrics, aleit with stiffer strings. And, once you learn how to move around on the fret board, to compensate for not being able to "bend" to different notes/pitches, you will become a better player, by default. But, I still don't play acoustic, as much as I should! Might have to change that habit, a bit. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Strum Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 My personal opinion is that every player needs at least one acoustic guitar.Too versatile not to have. But that's just my opinion. I agree with this. Even if you go out and get a used one at a decent price (read: good, but not outrageously priced) They are nice to have *for their sound *quick to pick-up and play without cables and amps, pedals. *easy to go places where there is no electricity (beach, camping...) *Light, only one object to load in the car (well, two - the guitar and beer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 ...with stiffer strings...CB Huh? What about acoustic 10's, for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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