Mr.Nelson Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 never considered mt ET-275 a custom nor a top of the line' date=' nor have I stated as such.... As for my archtop, I went with an expert opinion as to what he felt my archtop is. Until somebody comes up with more info as to what it really is, it will remain a mystery. Sorry but I confer with others before I purchase a guitar, and others don't mean Mr Nelson, Nelson, and that other username you have. [/quote[i']]duane v wrote: If the seller will remove the neck for you, there should be a red stamp date in the neck pocket on the body... I'm assuming it's the build date. On my 1970 ET-275 it has it, and it reads XX1170 (I don't want to make the day numbers public).... When I had my Crestwood re fretted, my Luthier pointed that out to me. So if that is a build date it would be November XX 1970.[/i] and your luthier (that just cracks me up...the ridiculous pretension in that statement)..told you a line of incorrect sh1t.. but go on believing him because he's already getting your money and you're just stupid enough to give him what he wants without haggling...and he'll keep feeding your weak little ego as long as you keep paying..,I've never seen anything remotely resembling that serial number format...and yeah, the Guitar Dater project is very flawed and I said so at the time but for the basic, current Asian stuff it usually works but for the early Japanese stuff you have to know the changes and minutiae of the models...like when the different truss rod covers were used which still isn't enough because truss rod can be changed...but the most basic thing is knowing what those early guitars were in the order of things-cheap imports having nothing to do with any previous domestic models-and knowing that the first two Epiphone electrics were the 5102T (Later called the EA-250...another piece of incredibly crappy junk)and the FT-270 and when those two models came out - 1971..and a couple of years later 1973/1974 they expanded the electric line...it's common knowledge that it's nearly impossible to date those guitars any closer than that because there was no rhyme or reason to the serialization of the numbers...but the last four digits weren't the year...if anything they were the run number LOL .please, feel free to disprove any of this.. Mr.Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 ...the problem here is I allowed ignorance and stupidity to control me... Mr.Nelson ........ you're more humble than I thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 and your luthier (that just cracks me up...the ridiculous;ous pretension in that statement)..told you a line of incorrect sh1t.. but go on believing him because he's already getting your money and you're just stupid enough to give him what he wants without haggling...and he'll keep feeding your weak little ego as long as you keep paying.. Mr.Nelson My guitar is considered a Crestwood... And just for you, I'll ask my Luthier if he can perform my next project for free=d> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Nelson Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 My guitar is considered a Crestwood... And just for you' date=' I'll ask my Luthier if he can perform my next project for free=d> [/quote'] Wrong.....the ET-290 was the Japanese model known as the Crestwood...get a clue, dreamer. The only person who considers it a Crestwood is an insecure poser who wants it desperately to be a Crestwood because this is as close as he's ever going to come to one.. Do you even have a slight idea what the differences between the models like the Coronet, Wilshire and Crestwood were...or is this just a matter of you needing to have something and if you can't have it you just change sh!t to make it work for you> wow, that's cool...I didn't know we could do that...excellent! my Tahoe just became an Escalade...thanx, dude. Mr.Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 my Tahoe just became an Escalade...thanx' date=' dude. Mr.Nelson[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Nelson Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I know' date=' I just wanted to point out it was [u']after 1970[/u] as you said. The other guy claimed his guitar was made in 1970. I wasn't sure of the exact year, but I posted the catalog page which even indicates 74. Also, on that page (if credible of course) it states "ET-275 Mfd. 1971 to 1975". I remember that pamphlet and I know it was out in very early 1974 because I was still in school and working part time at a music shop and playing weekends..and I know it was early 1974...no later than February that the shop got those models because I had just started playing house with Suzy (in January) who was pretty hot but dumb as a post..you can see why Brit appeals to me...I recall all this because I recall looking at the pamphlet and the dealer price list when they first arrived.. while living with Suzy..which was between January and May of 1974... but I know other places had them before that because I also recall going out to see how the other shops were pricing them...with Suzy..and this was when I was living in sin with Suzy...which was onc of my greatest hits of the 70's and can be found on many K-Tel compilation records of that time..."Living In Sin With Suzy"...OK, if you insist on knowing, Suzy caught me with Brenda, the local sixteen year old talent in early May of 1974 when she was meant to be at the laundromat but came home early and needless to say, we stopped playing house (we were living with my best friend who was married to Suzy's same-age aunt) soon after and we both moved back home to our parents...my memory is all based upon scientific associations so it's all very accurate...so the ET-275 and higher models came along sometime in 1973.. The ET-270 came out in 1971. No question about that. I have the first Epiphone catalog and it's dated 1971 and this was the first appearance of those models..I probably have that pamphlet and dealer price list too in my filing cabinets in the basement.. Suzy, thinking about it was very Britney-like..maybe there's something to that......hmmmm...but Suzy didn't sing.. Mr.Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Nelson Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I find your mockery and lack of consideration for my feelings very painful... Mr.Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr.Nelson Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 You're a cruel and vicious man.. Mr.Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generation zero Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Bah. All this silly bickering... It's all pointless to argue about, everyone knows my fake Gibson with the dragon inlay is FAR superior to any of your guitars anyway... LOL! (just kidding, of course...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I remember that pamphlet and I know it was out in very early 1974 because I was still in school and working part time at a music shop and playing weekends..and I know it was early 1974...no later than February that the shop got those models because I had just started playing house with Suzy (in January) who was pretty hot but dumb as a post..you can see why Brit appeals to me...I recall all this because I recall looking at the pamphlet and the dealer price list when they first arrived.. while living with Suzy..which was between January and May of 1974... but I know other places had them before that because I also recall going out to see how the other shops were pricing them...with Suzy..and this was when I was living in sin with Suzy...which was onc of my greatest hits of the 70's and can be found on many K-Tel compilation records of that time..."Living In Sin With Suzy"...OK' date=' if you insist on knowing, Suzy caught me with Brenda, the local sixteen year old talent in early May of 1974 when she was meant to be at the laundromat but came home early and needless to say, we stopped playing house (we were living with my best friend who was married to Suzy's same-age aunt) soon after and we both moved back home to our parents...my memory is all based upon scientific associations so it's all very accurate...so the ET-275 and higher models came along sometime in 1973.. The ET-270 came out in 1971. No question about that. I have the first Epiphone catalog and it's dated 1971 and this was the first appearance of those models..I probably have that pamphlet and dealer price list too in my filing cabinets in the basement.. Suzy, thinking about it was very Britney-like..maybe there's something to that......hmmmm...but Suzy didn't sing.. Mr.Nelson[/quote'] Classic! Sounds like fun times...I would trade in the era of cRap Rock in a heartbeat to have experienced the 70's like that. Britney dumb, yeah about $700k a month dumb...What a ****ry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Nelson Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Bah. All this silly bickering... It's all pointless to argue about' date=' everyone knows my fake Gibson with the dragon inlay is FAR superior to any of your guitars anyway... LOL! (just kidding, of course...) [/quote'] Yeah, so what?... yours probably is...you got any photos of Britney to share? Mr.Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Wrong.....the ET-290 was the Japanese model known as the Crestwood...get a clue' date=' dreamer. The only person who considers it a Crestwood is an insecure poser who wants it desperately to be a Crestwood because this is as close as he's ever going to come to one.. Do you even have a slight idea what the differences between the models like the Coronet, Wilshire and Crestwood were...or is this just a matter of you needing to have something and if you can't have it you just change sh!t to make it work for you> wow, that's cool...I didn't know we could do that...excellent! my Tahoe just became an Escalade...thanx, dude. Mr.Nelson[/quote'] posers aren't we all Nelson... I mean Mr. Nelson........oh excuse me.... what I really meant was 3rd username with -xxx post..... Or can we now call you Mr Escalade... I personally like that one best, it has a hip-hop feel to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generation zero Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Yeah' date=' so what?... yours probably is...you got any photos of Britney to share? Mr.Nelson[/quote'] None that wouldn't get me banned... And they're all probably as fake as my Gibson, LOL! On a serious note, regarding the "my luthier" comment... I read that not so much as a possessive, but more like "my barber" or "my mechanic", meaning to imply that "this is the specialist I take my work to exclusively, and if he can't fit me in I wait until he can," as opposed to "this is my own personal luthier I keep chained to the wall in my basement and throw tablescraps to in order to keep him healthy enough to do my bidding". I didn't think there was any snobbyness intended in that remark. As for wether said guitar was made in 1970, 1974, or 1933, I haven't a clue, and couldn't care less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 As for whether he said the guitar was made in 1970' date=' 1974, or 1933, I haven't a clue, and couldn't care less. [/quote'] here here!!! All that matters is I dig my Crestwood ET-275LE...... threw the LE in for Limited Epi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generation zero Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Ha. Just had more time to think about the luthier chained in the basement idea... "IT PUTS THE LOTION ON THE FRETBOARD!" LOL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emetry Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Ha. Just had more time to think about the luthier chained in the basement idea... "IT PUTS THE LEMON OIL ON THE FRETBOARD!" LOL... ^^I fixed your post for you. *grin* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 "IT PUTS THE LOTION ON THE FRETBOARD!" LOL... "OR ELSE IT GETS THE BUZZ AGAIN......IT DOES THIS WHEN EVER IT'S TOLD." lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffy Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 In good taste I'd like to say that hair trigger hostility seems to be commonplace on this forum. It is a turn off. There are polite and gentlemanly ways of discretely expressing opposition to someone's ideas without creating a werewolf atmosphere on the forum; I'd rather see a Howlin' Wolf atmosphere. That's only reasonable. We, yeah, we, me included, need to chill out and try to be more friendly towards each other and build an atmosphere that people from other forums envy. This can be done but I can see that it will require some work by all of us. Why squabble? I don't think anyone MEANT to offend anyone, until it blew up. Let's try to relax and enjoy ourselves. We have a lot to share and we all make mistakes and are often taken wrong or different than we meant. Good move Mr. Nelson with the gentlemanly clarification of what you meant. That kind of thing means something to people. We all get upset now and then. Don't beat yourself up. Peace, Duffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larkin38 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I think Billy Idol played this model a long long time ago. But this guitar and any guitar of it`s ilk come under what we used to call Japasonics. Our code for piece of s**t. Maybe worth the $49.99 they cost when new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 In good taste I'd like to say that hair trigger hostility seems to be commonplace on this forum.' date=' Duffy[/quote'] It's not commonplace, it's only with two members and they might be the same person.... Nelson has been bullying and calling people names, criticizing members and their instruments on this forum since it's existence. He may scare some of the other members when he lashes out at them, but I'm not going sit back and let some miserable individual use derogatory terms towards me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffy Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Good Duane V, good. It's not right and we should try to make this the best place for Epiphone discussions possible, know what I mean? Epiphones are cool guitars. Duffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emetry Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Cute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Nelson Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Good Duane V' date=' good. It's not right and we should try to make this the best place for Epiphone discussions possible, know what I mean? Epiphones are cool guitars. Duffy[/quote'] So tell me Duffy, would the BEST place for Epiphone discussions be where accurate and factual information is exchanged or a place where someone with a weak ego can build his personal choices and possessions up by disseminating misinformation, myth and complete bullsh!t? .I'm here to offer information that I've acquired over the course of many years. I have no reason to make any of this stuff up and my ego is boosted from the knowing I helped someone by giving them a straight, honest and factual answer...not creating some fantasy that makes what I own and my choices somehow more than they actually are through spreading misinformation. ...and who are you, again? Mr.Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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