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help! dilemma... casino vs SG


jerome_travis

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Hi guys..

 

I was about to sell my epiphone casino to get a 70s burny SG until..

 

the night before I went to test drive the burny, i played my casino for one last time, and as if in revenge the casino played so sweet and buttery - I always had problems getting used to the guitar - after 4 mths of playing and I wasn't used to the neck, ready to let it go. but it seems everything popped right on.

 

I went on to test the SG and the thing roared into my face! It was so so sweet. I had it tested with the Gibbo '61 RI and it sounded IDENTICAL! the bridge pickup nails nails NAILS that late 60's Clapton and after some fiddling I managed to even coax a 335 tone out of it! The neck pup didn't seem to shine as much but then again I hardly used it during my short test. The pups were the acclaimed VH-1s!

 

BUT - it was a neck problem again. It seemed a tad fatter and wider than the casino, but when compared to a SG 61 RI it was exactly the same - same thickness, nut width, etc. So it's safe to say it's the 60's slim profile. My runs didn't felt as smooth as it did on the casino just hours before. I checked for the action and was told it was done perfectly - but it seemed higher than what I'm used to - as i set my casino very low. I read it in the Gibbo web that setting up a guitar with slightly higher action contributes to better tone. PERHAPS it was done for this purpose. friendly seller said i'd get used to it.

 

tonight I'm supposed to sell my casino and close the SG deal on friday - or thursday at your side. I'm getting cold feet now! what should I do? keep the casino? or harden my heart and go with the SG?

 

reasons for selling casino : feedback issues, limited fret access

reasons for keeping : BEAUTIFUL CHERRY, pups with bite, i've always loved the hollow body look

 

reasons for buying the SG : sweet tones, versatile beyond words, beautiful nitro finish in aged cherry, fret access

reasons for not buying : uncomfortable neck and fear of not getting used to it.

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I have to agree, keep the Casino, get an SG later. Then again, I may simply be saying that because I'm playing a lot more clean stuff these days and really want a Casino! And a good used Casino isn't easy to come by here. New is way too expensive for me. Plus I already hve an SG and it's next to useless for clean, the humbuckers are just waaaaay too hot for that. It really depends on what you have the most use for I guess, but I always think it's great to have options, and a range of guitars. Something with humbuckers like an SG or Les Paul, something with single coils such as a Strat, something hollow such as a Casino. Some are better for clean and others are better for dirt and really wailing.

 

And frankly I think you need to toughen up a little when it comes to necks. Sometimes a guitar isn't going to have your ideal neck. But if the rest of it is what you want, then forget about the neck, you'll get used to it. I thought my G400 had a slim neck until I got my Strat. now the SG feels like a baseball bat. But that doesn't make me want to get rid of it. It just takes a minute to adjust to after playing the Strat is all. Same with the firebird. Even though it has the same 24.75" scale as the SG and a Les Paul, it feels a mile long. The fretboard is very flat, which makes it feel quite wide. Again, doesn't make me want to sell it, it's just something that takes a little getting used to after playing something else for a long period of time.

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ah... but the Burny's have excellent pickups - cleans are FANTASTIC, dirty - needless to say. 70's burny comes up to 1k plus USD these days.

 

http://www.japanguitars.co.uk/burny%20info.html

 

im getting mine for just 400USD, same price im letting off the casino.

 

If its really case then I just have to get used to the neck I guess!

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I've always been reluctant about Gibson SGs because I don't like the cricket-bat necks, I guess the Burny is the same.

 

I guess it just depends what you want. Casinos are easy to get though, whereas Burny SG I'd never ever heard of until I read this post, so if it's a rare find I would go for it and it would be easy enough to pick up another Casino down the track. Casino are quite consistently made and all feel and play pretty much the same as far as I can tell, it's something that's always going to be available at a high quality. I'm not a believer in the whole "it must come from factory x between year 19xx and 19yy or it's no good" mythology, a Casino is a Casino. I realise other people feel different though. Maybe go to a guitar shop and play some of the Casinos there and see if they measure up to the one you already have before making a decision. That is, if there's still time...

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You can probably eventually get used to any type of neck though. If you're a reasonable player your playing will adapt accordingly. I used to swear by Strats and I still like the feel of them but I've adapted to Epis easily enough. I wouldn't worry too much about feel, I think the real clincher for me would be the relative rarity of the guitars. If a Burny is easy to get then I'd say you could certainly hold off and pick one up later, but if it's a real one-of-a-kind situation that won't be repeated then that'd seal the deal for me.

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